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#122 ·
RSX said:
ok, so with octane removed from the equation, it seems we brits have even less of an excuse.

I am not saying that one is right or wrong, statistically you would have to think the UK is wrong from a minority point of view (although i hear the swedes think our figures are consistently high!).

all I am saying is that if you are used to British power outputs, don't compare them directly with US figures are they don't repeat for some reason over here.
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Adam you can go run a dynojet 4lc the exact same as AMS here in the uk . My evo9 made 349 atw @ 1.6 bar . the same day ,same tank of fuel run 299.9atw @ scoobyclinic but only held 1.4 bar .

Shiv @ vishnu has a dyno dynamics btw as do several others. Dave bushur has a mustang and there is a mustang in kent 20 miles from james . so it is possible to quantify there powers made and 1/4's recorded .

Dave
 
#123 ·
I have been putting up our HP figures AND 1/4 mile times for anyone asking me questions. I'm not sure how the HP numbers convert and such. Our dyno here, if I load up a bone stock EVO8 on our dyno they make around 210 whp. An EVO9 will make between 214 and 220 whp. This will give you an idea for a baseline on a stock EVO. Stock EVO's here run 13.20's with a good car and driver.
 
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#126 ·
Very true, I have heard the non USDM cars are stronger than ours from the factory. It would be interesting to see the high octane fuel and ignition maps from a stock ECU's EVO8 or EVO9 to compare them. Any chance your or Sam have a screen shot of one you can forward to me?
 
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#127 ·
Scoobyclinic . done first thing in the morning . car avcr was set @ 1.6 bar which it ran without problem on the road . On the dyno run it only made 1.4 bar and also showed that there was a little clutch slip which was not apparent on the Dynojet .

Dave
 
#130 ·
was a ecutek evo9 with rs wheel in a mag turbo . running exhaust and filter and pump .

Car runs lots more hp with more boost but did as back to back to see how the car ran on the dyno jet .Must say the cars are loads happier on the dynojet as the strap down is far more friendly

Dave
 
#131 · (Edited)
Are the AMS and buscher cars running 8's with nos or without it ?

Because we are yet to see a evo do the 1/4 mile with nos !

Also are your americans not running mega mega boost (3bar+)??

Example norris car runs 2.2 bar last year and hits 9.6 and still runs all year reliable - maybe our tuners are not prepared to stretch things this fare - maybe our tuners want to keep their engine in one piece ........... i dont know ...... you guys tell me ? :)
 
#132 ·
I'll be glad to tell you;)

We do NOT run nitrous. Our car with driver weighs in at 2650 pounds. We do run 3+ bar of boost. We run VP Import Race fuel in the 8 second car. No alcohol or alcohol injection on it. 4-1600 cc fuel injectors. Best run is 8.95 and 164 mph. The engine in the car was in the entire season, we pulled it to check it out and freshen it up in late August. It was perfect. As was witnessed at the Subaru and DSM shootouts here we run the car like a road racer, make a pass, drive back to the starting line and make another.

My daily driver run's 9.90's on just C16, 4-1200 cc injectors, much less than 3+ bar as you suggested and other than a broken valve this year has never failed me.

Stop grasping for excuses;)
 
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#134 ·
James car never ran nos and weighted in @ a lard 3020 lb's without james @ 17 stone and ran consistant 9.7s . Simons car ran 9.6 and weights in around 1150 ish . Also James car only used 1 engine the whole,season with a new stock crank mid season as a freshen up pretty much same as simons car .We broke the engine pushing the engine right to the limits and 11,000+rpm . High terminals come with outright HP nothing else . Also in drag racing every 50kg reduction or so is worth a tenth .I am sure David will concur with this .
 
#135 ·
Well one thing for sure... you can't compare atw bhp without considering what the dyno was. I think in order of highest to lowest reading numbers it goes:

dynojet -> mustang dyno -> dyno dynamics

As for running 500 atw with a 35r on stock block. Yes I think that probably can be done whether you are in the UK or USA.

As for quarter mile times... I am continually surprised by some of the poor numbers I see from standard'ish evos at Santa Pod. Often in the 14's! Bottom line, standard evos should be in low 13's. Turn up the boost you should see mid 12's but you have to know how to launch and shift.

As for the 8 and 9 second quarters... Norris does 9.6 with what tires and boost? Still more to come with that car and it's stroked which I think does not help in the 1/4. As for Sam and Dave.... the drag monster is full weight so maybe 500 more lbs than the Buschur 8 second car.

So all in all it seems things add up just fine.
 
#137 ·
Just some of the things Barrie . geomerty has a huge impact on getting of the line . James car runs diffs allround simon knows he needs them . Simons car is a allrounder and is great @ what it does . Drag and allround is 2 different events and cars need to be set up for both .

Sitting on the line and dropping the clutch simply will never work .

imo Dave
 
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