If it's not an MR I doubt you're going to get 400 out of it on those mods, 380 maybe. Doesn't mean it's not a good car or well tuned though :shrug:

 

Not sure what is an MR?So what would the turbo limit be on an 8...380?

I think you are perhaps working from the wrong end to make a decision, rather than focusing on 'Is this car better than this', go on which one do you prefer the look of? The VII shape or the VIII shape?

From that point narrow the search and buy on condition, any Evo that has been in the UK for a significant period of time has the possibility of chassis rot/corrosion if it hasn't been looked after well. Specifically look at the chassis legs, get underneath the car and inspect it.

Having just bought another one and gone through the same process i ignored mods and went for condition and history.

Yes I agree with the chassis rot, a fresh import maybe better as you have mentioned.

Absolutely.

VIII Super AYC alone was a big upgrade. Build quality is also better with the VIII.

But with an VIII some don't like the blue interior, and they are more 'common'. Also the VIII 6 speed can have issues.

As you are new to Evo's though, a lot of things are not going to really be obvious or noticeable to you really so it's best to choose your car on it's own merits / condition.

So the 8 has better build quality, yes I know what you mean about the blue interior.So are the engine internals stronger on the 8? Turbo have any changes over the 7?

The most cost efficient way I think is to get an Evo 8 260 stick a set of cams and a E9 turbo on it that will do 400/400@ circa 1.7 bar .. it has the 5 speed box which is stronger and on the plus side you will find a 54 plate 260 for around 7/8k

So the 7 has a 5 speed box and the 8 has a 6 speed yes? I know the 6 has a 5 speed and have been told the 6 speed can have issues. What sort of power does it take to start breaking a 6 spd box?

A 260 is the way i'd go if i did it again, i'd probably leave it pretty much standard too except Ohlins, Alcons and an RS diff. Do you need 400/400, will you be tracking it?

I've been running 377/350 for about 7 years now and it's plenty for me on road and trackdays. Better to do the suspension, brakes and some weight loss in my opinion. As already said, the 6 speed isn't as strong as the 5 speed.

I would like 400/400 but it's not the be all and end all.I'm used to big power cossies I've had over the years so I am a bit of a big power freak.The car will only be for road use,no track involvement for me.Will it do this power on standard ecu? I'm assuming so.Excuse my ignorance but what are Ohlins?

Anymore info would be great.

Thanks again.

 

I think you are perhaps working from the wrong end to make a decision, rather than focusing on 'Is this car better than this', go on which one do you prefer the look of? The VII shape or the VIII shape?

From that point narrow the search and buy on condition, any Evo that has been in the UK for a significant period of time has the possibility of chassis rot/corrosion if it hasn't been looked after well. Specifically look at the chassis legs, get underneath the car and inspect it.

Having just bought another one and gone through the same process i ignored mods and went for condition and history.

 

Oh and VII's are ALWAYS faster, even more so if Yellow ;-)

 

Only as Yellow VIIs started out as SILVER , so have the inherent "fastness" with the blinding "canary hue" to give the APPARENT illusion of fastness

 

Would it make 400bhp without the tubular manifold?

Absolutely.

VIII Super AYC alone was a big upgrade. Build quality is also better with the VIII.

But with an VIII some don't like the blue interior, and they are more 'common'. Also the VIII 6 speed can have issues.

As you are new to Evo's though, a lot of things are not going to really be obvious or noticeable to you really so it's best to choose your car on it's own merits / condition.

 

The most cost efficient way I think is to get an Evo 8 260 stick a set of cams and a E9 turbo on it that will do 400/400@ circa 1.7 bar .. it has the 5 speed box which is stronger and on the plus side you will find a 54 plate 260 for around 7/8k

 

A 260 is the way i'd go if i did it again, i'd probably leave it pretty much standard too except Ohlins, Alcons and an RS diff. Do you need 400/400, will you be tracking it?

I've been running 377/350 for about 7 years now and it's plenty for me on road and trackdays. Better to do the suspension, brakes and some weight loss in my opinion. As already said, the 6 speed isn't as strong as the 5 speed.

 

6 speeds seem to expire around the 400 plus mark , my mates E8 6 speed did the same . Yes the E7 has a 5speed box . the 5 speeds are good for 500 bhp and a bit more .

 

Thanks for clarifying this, great info.
How much for an e9 turbo and what's it power limit roughly?

Cheers.

 

what are the engines like in the 7's? what sort of bhp will they make before the need to forge?

 

The honest answer to that common question is, it depends. Some are fine at over 450 bhp, some die at 350 bhp. Depends on how it has been treated, and the quality of the tune.

The bottom line is, when you buy a second hand performance car, you need to assume that it has been treated like ****, then you won't get any nasty surprises.

 

Sounds like a fair statement to me, need to take a good look underneath then for sure.Would I be correct in saying the fresher the import then better or not?

I would avoid a VII due to weak rods and rotting chassis (sorry to say it).

Any Evo VIII all the way. Evo 8 260 is very underrated and as already pointed out, is a great base to start with, however theres an un-justifed stigma around them but it does put people off buying them.

So rods are weak on the 7 then, this is the sort of info I need before starting to view a car. I must be honest I would be tempted by a nice 6 TME.How does this compare with 7 and 8 engine wise and rot wise? I had hoped to got for a newer 7 or 8 but not totally convinced yet.

Any help would be great.

 

I would avoid a VII due to weak rods and rotting chassis (sorry to say it).

Any Evo VIII all the way. Evo 8 260 is very underrated and as already pointed out, is a great base to start with, however theres an un-justifed stigma around them but it does put people off buying them.

 

Maybe a tad harsh Rich, my new VII is clean and practically rust free - there is a 5p sized spot on 1 chassis leg and that is it, the rest is very solid. As i said in the initial post, buy on condition. There are sorted cars out there you just need to have a good look around and inspect each one you view thoroughly. :smthumbup

Agree on the 260 base though, prices are good and they are a perfect if you plan to mod. :thumbup:

 

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Thanks for that much appreciated.

I'd say for looks 7 but 8 is the better car because it has evolved; init:thumbup:

Well that would make sense yes, just trying to get a feel for these cars and as much info as possible. I am thinking e6 tme, e7 or e8, just not sure really.I just don't have the knowledge with these cars.

Thanks.

 

I'd say for looks 7 but 8 is the better car because it has evolved; init:thumbup:

 

I would choose TME over 7 and 8 for my personal preference, but not for the 9.
as the others says choose what you feel is better, try to drive them if someone let you then maybe it will help you to decide, but of course modded are different feeling compare to standard. and yes check the over all quality of the car

 

I know the 6 is legendary, but 8 looks a bit more modern, it's a tough call, I do need to drive a few first I think.

If you want a nice comfortable car that only takes a small bit of modding and will run 400/400 all day no probs then buy a 9.

If you want something rattly, struggles to hit 400 and will need more money thrown at it,then buy a 6.

Me...I prefer the 6.

E9 is to expensive with the tax rip off but as you say a more comfortable car and can easily hit 400 bhp with little mods,I think it's gonna be the tme or an 8.

Just drive a few of each and see what takes your fancy, it always comes down to that anyway, and as long as you don't buy a lemon, whatever you choose will put a big smile on your face.

I wish, can't see me getting to drive more than one or two but we will see.

Reading on here over the years there has been a few cases with standard 7 rods turning into bananas.
Buy the newest car you can with the best history.

I think I have been put off the 7, I do like the look of the 8, gonna be tough to choose between that and the tme.

Thanks to everyone who posted, very much appreciated.

Cheers.

 

If you want a nice comfortable car that only takes a small bit of modding and will run 400/400 all day no probs then buy a 9.

If you want something rattly, struggles to hit 400 and will need more money thrown at it,then buy a 6.

Me...I prefer the 6.

 

Reading on here over the years there has been a few cases with standard 7 rods turning into bananas.
Buy the newest car you can with the best history.

 

I'm still struggling to decide on a 6 tme, 7 or 8. There's nothing local to me so I could drive one.
I've been scouting the net for the last 2 wks but haven't really seen anything that jumps out at me.Seen one or two 9's that I fancied but they were out of my budget to be fair.

Thanks.

 

Lol same as me im struggling to decide too and seriously considering importing one (just put a thread up for advice, positives and negatives)

I had a 260 before and was sort of frowned upon lol people saying not a real evo etc

 

At the end of the day the 260 engine is the exact same just different cams etc .
Don't be put of by a 260 a few quid spent on it and it will match any fq or mr.
I recently bought a evo 8 260 with 15000 miles on it. With few mods on it you will see easily over the 320 mark.
A 260 is still a evo in my eyes.

 

A 260 is still a evo in my eyes.

Unless those eyes are looking at night.

From your car

Anyone with an FQ will probably recognise this night shot of the same road.

 

I amazed I buy a fq just because it's got xenon.
Less than 100 bucks will get you that

 

Headlights

Yep aidy that's them Shyte

 

7 is heaven ....with the silver angelwings ...billy hunts :angel:

 

Lol got to laugh 100 quid and you can see at night what a bargain

 

FFs ...any evo is fine .....better than a Melted Boxer or expensive fat Datsun pound for pound ( kg for kg ? ) ........Enough of the infighting !!
So , get a silver one ....wrap it in carbon effect CARBON :crackup:...add photonic LED bulb lightness .....job done ,,,oh ..fit Ridiculous H head /chav rims shod in worn Chinese uber quality drift rubber ...then you have arrived my son

Digression on grand scale methinks :mhihi: