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Hello all,

I'm a little new to the lancer register and was hoping for some advice; I'm sure this post has probably been done to death. At the moment I'm in the middle of selling my sti type ra and am considering buying an evo 3. I've done all the usual research like reading the buyers guide and a few posts about the Evo 3, but I would like some advice from some of you lot. What I wanted to know is, has any gone from and ra to an evo 3 and what were the differences you picked up (all the usual stuff like handling, brakes, tuning, etc..). Also, any opinions and advice abou the evo 3 from any one would be nice.
 

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Hi mate, all i can say is that before my evo 6 i owned a bugeye wrx and to be honest it was gutless comapred to the evo, completely different cars, the evo does handle much better in my opinion as well.

Hope that helps

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Thanks for that Quick change. I've heard that the early Evo's are a little different to the later Evo's though. Can anyone who's had an earlier Evo and a later one throw in any personal opinions. Or once again anyone that has gone from a Scooby to an earlier Evo.
 

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Hi hannible, like quick change i changed from a bug eye wrx and i now have E6 TME and boy what a difference, the power the handling and just everthing seems so much better.

I loved my wrx but the evo imo is far superior. :)
 

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i know of someone doing the same thing he compared his 360 bhp (proven) scooby to a lightly modded 3 and to 80mph there was nothing in it i have a e1 i'm chuffed to **** with it.
 

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spook said:
i know of someone doing the same thing he compared his 360 bhp (proven) scooby to a lightly modded 3 and to 80mph there was nothing in it i have a e1 i'm chuffed to **** with it.
Send a PM to GSRGeoff, he has owned a EVO III and about 15 other cars in between. ;)
 

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i know of someone doing the same thing he compared his 360 bhp (proven) scooby to a lightly modded 3 and to 80mph there was nothing in it i have a e1 i'm chuffed to **** with it.
Me yellow peril strikes again :D

To ba fair he did pull away after about a ton and has a load more power in the 3k to 4k range.
His is fully mapped though.

His is running Motec/upgraded internals/front mount @ 1.6 bar is his Type r

Me Evo 3 expensive tuning list comes to a £45 dawes device and a £30 quid decat with car [email protected] :D

oh and a hks filter :)

0-100 is where the Early Evo really shine, handling more or less the same as classic scoobs...maybe a tad less understeer.

Not much ever out dragged the old girl to be honest,friends M3 Evo/Pulsars/scoobs all tried, but failed :moon:

Friend turned up with a bug eye STI PPP one day thinking he would, but to be honest wasnt to hard to get past.

Would say a Evo 3 a Stronger car and will take more abuse than a scoob of same vintage as well.

Love the diff control in his type r though :coolsm:
 

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Both being standard cars would be a neck and neck affair I reckon from standstill to redline.Type r might pull a tiny bit maybe?

When my car was standard(well it had a hks filter) she was at worse neck and neck with friends Impreza WRX Sti Type UK PPP 02 (bug eye)

took cat off and ran @16psi gave a nice improvement, with the car being able to pull away from the STI PPP at any speed.

Traffic light grand prix was stomping ground for the 3..light weight meaning they just fly from standstill.
 

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Evos

Although I can't comment on Scoobies I can give you some views on two Evos I have experienced.

Going back 4 years I had an Evo 4RS, it was std apart from a full turbo back HKS exhaust, decat, HKS Racing suction kit and grooved GSR spec brakes and Red Stuff pads. After 2 lightly modded R32 Skyline GTR's and a few other cars in between I now have an Evo 2 RS with rock hard suspension, half cage and Bucket seat, its std enginewise running std boost and std inlet/exhaust.

Due to the mods the cars are quite different. The 4 was quicker (RR'd at 297 bhp fwhp) and definetly handled better as an everyday car. I say this because the roads I commute on are terrible, I dunno what Aberdeen council spend the road budget on up here, its certainly not the roads, anyway, I digress, the car inspired alot of confidence and I was alot comfier in the 4. It was more refined than the 2 but you'd expect that given the constant development and model change between the 2 cars. I love the 2 for what it is, a cheap, quick and reasonably practical car. Once I get some more user friendly springs fitted and I get the HKS exhaust and Gizzmo chip on the car they should be easier to compare performance and handling wise. The 2 is quick and handles like a go-kart, it zips quickly up the revs but feels strangled after 5000 rpm. The chip and pipe should sort this out though.

Interior wise, the 4 takes it, it was better quality and after I fitted GSR recaros just about perfect, basic, functional and made it easy to drive very quickly. It was newer though, 4 years old when I had the car versus the 11 year old interior in the 2 which is a bit beat up now, I like it though, it has character and for a Back Road blaster it fits the bill perfectly, or it will with a few 60mm gauges :cool:

Given I paid 12k for my 4 back in 2001 it was alot more to lay out on a car than the amount i paid for the 2 earlier this year. If your budget will stretch to it, get a 4. The cars are comparible in the early stages of tuning, parts availablility seems good for the early cars, probably not as good as the later models right enough.
I guess you could pick up a 4 from about £8k, versus just over half of that for a 2, slightly more for a 3.

It depends on your budget though, I always allow plenty for servicing and mods because I know what the cars cost, don't stretch yourself too far and scrimp when looking after these cars.

Although I've never had an Impreza, I'm sure that they are good cars, if I did buy one though it would be an STi, a sharper car by all accounts and probably more comparible to an Evo, especially the later models, As far as I can tell, the Evo seems a harder edged car than the Impreza, chosen by myself as I thought it was more a drivers car. I'm not into this whole mine is better than yours thing though, its stupid, I like what I like and everybody else is entitled to their own opinion. I'd certainly like to experience a nice scooby, just to see what all the fuss is about.

hope i haven't bored you too much.....
 

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I think that both the Evo's and Scoobies are very similar, it just comes down to prefernce.

But anyway, by the sounds of it, the Evo iii is very similar to my STI RA, raw, light and no electronic gismo's doing the work for me. I love it.

I know the Evo iii is a 4wd 50/50 power distribution, but in reality does the back end like to come out a bit? This is what my RA is like but I actually like it, it helps to get the car round corners a bit quicker.
 

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Re: Evos

Hoolio said:


Interior wise, the 4 takes it, it was better quality and after I fitted GSR recaros just about perfect, basic, functional and made it easy to drive very quickly. It was newer though, 4 years old when I had the car versus the 11 year old interior in the 2 which is a bit beat up now, I like it though, it has character and for a Back Road blaster it fits the bill perfectly, or it will with a few 60mm gauges :cool:

I agree the inside looks better on a 4 but the seats are far better in a Evo 3 gsr than many of the later cars, seem more supportive :)
 

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Hannible said:
I think that both the Evo's and Scoobies are very similar, it just comes down to prefernce.

But anyway, by the sounds of it, the Evo iii is very similar to my STI RA, raw, light and no electronic gismo's doing the work for me. I love it.

I know the Evo iii is a 4wd 50/50 power distribution, but in reality does the back end like to come out a bit? This is what my RA is like but I actually like it, it helps to get the car round corners a bit quicker.
I have always though the 50/50 split isnt very realistic...maybe closer to this on early Evo with front lsd??

Mine didnt have a front lsd and the back end is very very easy to provoke. :coolsm:
 
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