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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I´m finally changing my pads in a pair of weeks because I´m fed up of squeeling and sparks. I think that I´m going to fit the pagid rs 14 because Claudius told me that it works perfectly. I asked about them in summer, is there any problem with this pads since then. And how much are they?

thanks and Merry Christmas.
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
if youre fed with with squeeling and sparks don t buy rs14 they squeel like crazy on standard brembo discs and when hot you get sparks and youre discs are glowing red these pads are competition pads

try ferodo ds 2000 or ds 2500 no squeel and no sparks but you will loose some braking power compared to rs14

regards

andre
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Thanks for your answer.
But Claudius told that there was no noise unless the pads were a bit dirty.
Are you sure that Ferodo ds2000 or ds2500 don´t squeel? I had a bad experience with Ferodo in my other car and I don´t trust a lot in Ferodo. Its brake power is as good as standard Mitsubishi pads or it is worse.

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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
RS 14 have lots of noise on standard brembo discs believe i have tried that. on other discs like claudius use CTF discs it can have no problems it depends on discs material.

ds 2000 has no squeeling on my car with brembo discs

brake power of ds2000 is better as standard

regards

andre
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Thanks Andre,
I don´t know what I will finally fit; althought ferodo ds2000 will be a good option, they are cheaper than pagid rs14.

My car haven´t got standard disks, the mechanic fit me the disks and pads that they use in competition, but he didn´t wanted to tell me from which enterprise came from. They are a bit different from standard disk and I looked at their rally cars and they had fitted the same disk.

I will ask the mechanic pads with no squeeling. If they squeel it´s his fault.

Thank you

Bye
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
My mechanic has offered me an other pads, they are called Roesch. Does anybody know something about this pads?
Thanks.
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Hi again

I have tried Pagid RS14s on std and CTF discs. They squeek a little bit when you dont use them hard ie city. Then you brake hard a few times and the squeek is gone for 50 - 100 miles. It is a squeek, not a loud squeal.
A friend of mine said the RS14s are noisy, so I bought them from him. He hadnt even run them in. He now uses Ferodo DS 2500 or 3000, much noisier he said. Too bad, man! http://www.lancerregister.com/graphics/tongue1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle >
I read often times on here that the Mintex squeal like mad and need cutting off the edges. What is the point of that? Less pad surface!
I dont know what to say, get them, run them in and if they squeal tell everyone that I'm deaf or sthg. Maybe I shall videotape a few braking times and send the file to you.
MAXI uses softer pads at the moment and wants the RS14 back, they had better stopping power.
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Thanks for your answer Claudius. I don´t think you are deaf. If you tell me that they don´t squeel at all (only a bit in City), I trust in you.
Is there a different noise using standard disks or CTF disks?

Is it possible than two cars with the same brake system (disk ,pads..), in one car there is a loudly sqeeling and in the other nothing at all?

Thanks, bye, and Happy New Year.
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
My RS14 at the back squeal like a pig, not as worse as the Mintex F4R but still annoying. I've got a front set of RS14 lying around in my garage as I don't need them anymore. Wear and modulation is unsatisfying. But you only find out after fitting a better brake system;)

Happy new year

Mike
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Willy

Theoretically, if the system is the same, there shouldnt be a difference between two cars. Now if scoobymike tells you his' squeal, I believe they do. But I dont understand why. Oh, maybe because you need to drive hard to make the first squeaks go away ;)

I remember they squeaked a little more frequently with the std discs, but it was a tiny difference. Scooby, try to get your rear pads hot and brake some more, then let cool down. They shouldnt squeal anymore after that. And they should only go squeek from time to time...
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Claudius,

Do you suggest braking very hard in order to finish with disk and pads squealing? I don´t understand why it can help to finish with brake squealing. Please, could you explain it?

Thanks.

Bye
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Hi Willy

Yes, I do suggest to brake hard a few times in a row to avoid squealing for a certain period. I dont know for sure why this is so. My guess is that when braking lightly, you dont always get the whole pad on the disc evenly. But then sometimes I dont use the car hard, ie just driving in town for longer periods and no squealing happens. It's kinda strange...
Anyway, the RS14s brake really well and make no noise compared to Ferodos or Mintex.
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Thanks for all Claudius. I don´t know the answer of the squealin either. My pads squeal when hot, if i drive the car they start squealing after several brakes, it doesn´t matter if they are haard brakes or not, they are hot and they squeal as a big train.
Bye
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
Willy

I can tell you for sure that they DO NOT squeal or squeak or make any noise when hot. I will change my rear pads to RS14s next week. I'll let you know what happens.
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Thanks Claudius, I´m waiting your news.
My mechanic has offered me Roesch pads, and if I don´t like them I can give them back, so I´m going to prove them. But if somebody warms me about problems with this pads I won´t fit them, I don´t like wasting time.
Bye
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Hi again

I fitted the RS14s in the back 2 days ago, still running them in. They squeal, sometimes loud. I'll let you know if the squeal goes away, gets less or worse or whatever happens. I guess I need to give them a good blast. ;)
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
I´m waiting for your news.
I will probably fit Galfer pads. i think that Galfer is a Spanish enterprise. My brother has this pads fitted in his Escort Cosworth and in his 5 Gt Turbo. he says that neither noise nor fadding appear.
I will tell you when I prove them, if they have pads for Evos
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
Galfar pads are standard evo pads all new evo are delivered on galfar pads

not my favorite

regards

andre
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
Forgot to mention the better balance, the front dips less, the car slows better down from the back. MAXI can confirm this (just like he always jumps in, doesnt he Mike? :D)
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
More squeely sparky pads ! - Had the same problem myself with some Mintex pads and replacement discs
recomended and fitted by Dragon. Got to say they were pretty good about it and replaced the pads for me - I've had standard Brembo ones fitted with Dragons discs (sorry don't know the brand) - They are great, no squeel no sparks loads of feel no locking the ABS on greasy bumpy roads, no fade so far and they stop on a sixpence if you need to. They put in some top brake fluid which seems good. (ah! and also the brake dust from the standard pads does not knacker your wheels like the 'sparky' pads do)
 
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