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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
We've exchanged a few posts on this forum in the past. I'm Danny, also an 1800 GSR owner, not sure if you remember.

From reading your website and your posts on the forum, you're obviously a keen enthusiast with a fair bit of knowledge on the car. To be honest, my experience of the car so far has been fairly disasterous. I'm hoping that you may have some thoughts on why.

Soon after I bought the car, I noticed that it would jump out of first gear on occasion. This got worse over time, but I put up with it because of the huge work involved in removing the box. Despite this, I enjoyed driving the car. The performance and handling are pretty stunning. Anyway, the gearbox also started to lose oil. I had to place a tub under the car wherever I parked, and then had to top up the oil before I set off again. I couldn't put up with this for very long, so I decided to drop the box and get it sorted once and for all. I knew that it was going to be a lot of trouble and cost, but I felt that the car would be worth it in the end. So I removed the gearbox and left it with a local gearbox specialist who had been recommended to me. They stripped the box and pointed out all the problems. Basically the bearing nearest to first gear had failed, causing it to jump out of first, and the bearing debris had made its way around the box and eventually torn the seal on the output shaft to the transfer box, hence the leak. Also, 2 worn selector forks, worn synchros and a shafted fifth gear hub. This explains some of the crunches I used to get changing up to fifth. So we compiled a list of parts to replace, I got the bits from co-ordsport, they rebuilt the box and I put it back in the car along with a new clutch plate, cover and bearing. Financially, it stung.

However, after the first drive I smiled and thought money well spent. It was great.

Now, 4 months later and I've just spent today removing the gearbox again. It sounds like a bearing has failed. There is lots of noise coming from the transmission and lots of metal in the oil.

The box is going back to the place that rebuilt it the first time, for investigation.

I'm absolutely gutted and I've lost all confidence in the car. I can't afford to rebuild the box every 4 months, so I feel I have to sell the car when it is back on the road. This pains me because of the time, money and effort that I've put into it.

Have you ever suffered gearbox problems with your car, or have you heard of problems on other 1800 GSR's?

If only I was confident of the car's reliability I would definitely keep it.

Any thoughts/sympathy/advise very welcome.

Cheers
Danny
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
haven't heard of anyone else with this problem as my brother and i own a 1800 RS, but it does apparently have a different gearbox the first gear is closer than the GSR. how much did the parts from co-ordsport cost?
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Hi Danny,
I know this post was meant for chunky, but I also own a 1800GSR and i've had major gearbox problems too. The centre diff blew in mine so I put a new diff in only for the same thing to happen!!. Turned out that the previous owner had gear problems and found a box which he thought would do the job but ratios where all wrong. This i did not know when i bought the car and only after rebuilding the gearbox 3 times did i find this out. Now i've no option but to find a complete GSR gearbox to replace this one.
I've modified the gearbox i have to run on RWD only to keep me on the road until i get one.
I suggest that you get a complete new set of bearings (not cheap) and get the gearbox rebuilt by a Rally or Racing gearbox builder as they will have way more knowledge and problem solving skills in these boxes than your normal Gearbox centre.
This is all assuming that syncros are in good nick and that it is an original 1800 GSR box. The number that should be stamped on the top of the bellhousing is W5M332NRWE .
You wouldn't believe the amount of different variants of this 4WD box from old 1600 GSR's to Galant VR-4's to EvoI-III's plus strange jap 4wd Spacewagons.
Anyway hope you get sorted soon and hope i do too for that matterhttp://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/biggrin1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle >.
Regards,
Paul.C
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Thanks for the replies.

Andy - The gearbox parts from co-ordsport were reasonably priced. Cheaper than the local Mitsi dealer. Synchros were about £20 each, seals around £3 each, selector forks around £25 each. Plus a couple of major items, like 5th gear hub at £95. I think that the total parts bill came to £400 ish.

Paul - I just checked the ID number on the bell housing and it matched OK. Sorry to hear about your gearbox troubles, sounds serious. Finding a complete box must be difficult. I'll let you know if I hear of anything.

Cheers
Danny
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
My little brother has already spoken on this matter, however im the one actually drives the car!
I have probelms with my box with getting it in 2nd from first and 3rd from 2nd. The syncho is a bit slow, i am continually fighting with it when i put the power down big style. To get a quick get away i really have to concentrate and feel the gearbox(Crap term i know). Its as smooth as the Queen mum dancing salsa, basically it crap but its been like since i got it.
The problem is that we have no idea what the cars have being doing in the past and what people have to done to the gearbox. But dont let the gearbox get you down, they are one hell of the car and if the gearbox gets properlly fixed you should have no further worries.
Cheers
Al
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Danny

Sorry to hear of your continuing misfortune http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/sad1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle >

As you can see from his post, Paul (GSRed) is really 'da man' when it comes to the technical bits of a GSR, esp. the gearbox. After all, he's had plenty practice fitting 'em! [img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/wink1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle >

I concur with everything he says, get a specialist to look at the 'box and I hope you can get it sorted and enjoy the car again, they really can be quite reliable! I've done about 60,000km in mine and (touch wood) the only things to go wrong (alternator and a/c) have been my fault!
 
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