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Madmac Motorsport's Twincharged Evo 5

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During the winter build of the old Evo 5 hillclimb slag I decided to look at ways of reducing the turbo lag which was becoming an issue and costing precious hundredths of seconds on the hills last year. It never lacked top end power but the lag really started to get to me and i knew i could make it quicker point to point by reducing the lag - but keeping top end power.
I looked at many possible ways to do this but in the end settled for adding a supercharger to run in conjunction with the turbo.

Designed and built by myself with input from friends and members on MLR, most parts have been fabricated in my garage from whatever was lying around, the end result has been worth the blood, Sweat and tears I've put into this.

We've had her on the dyno at Wallace Performance in Aberdeen and had surprisingly few teething problems considering the unknowns and the huge amount of bespoke parts that needed to be designed, fabricated and made. Initial mapping is done now and the whole package is showing some serious potential! We've decided to keep the system at it's minimum until i do reliability tests and learn how to drive it properly :angel:

I've also designed and built a tubular front subframe and arms (total 9Kg:D) to reduce front weight and while i was at it, it seemed rude not to play with the suspension geometry!

I want to thank a few people for their input and help:

Russ and the guys at Wallace Performance who did the mapping and supplied parts/tea/banter etc. Top guys and never ones to shy from a challenge! Can't thank you enough:smthumbup:D. http://www.wallaceperformance.co.uk/

My mate Steve Marr who is the main technical guru, and who i regularly bugged to ask lots of questions on a daily basis:smthumbup.

My mate Graeme Wight Jnr for his help with the front subframe and major suspension geometry changes, Exhaust and general setting up

Alan Young Engineering Ltd for the quality machined bespoke pulleys and parts, Spot-on parts and great prices http://www.timingbeltpulleys.co.uk/pages/home.php

And everyone else who suffered because of my constant lust for knowledge during the build:smthumbup:D

As yet i've to do some miles and get her setup for the start of the 2010 Scottish Sprint & Hillclimb Championship, so for the moment i'm being realistic about expectations & screwing the nut until i check everything over and get used to driving it. Hoping to do some track testing soon though. I've had her out for a short drive and so far the whole package is working impressively. Instant delivery at anything above 2500rpm with absolutely awesome accelleration in every gear! This is on it's lowest boost setting too....

Over the next few months The guys at Wallace Performance & I are going to refine some of the setup and see what she's really capable of! We know we can find a lot more power & torque with some simple changes.

Meantime i'm happy with the initial results and looking forward to Doune Hillclimb in 2 weeks:D:D Should be fun!

Keep watching....;)

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I had a car mapped on ecutek and asked about the map access. They are coded to the master tuners key so nobody but that tuner with his key can access it. Are people saying that having an ecutek map means you should have access to the mappers key? Go to another mapper and they have to start afresh. It has always been this way so why are people getting upset at aftermarket maps which take a lot more time to develop than ecutek maps?

If you buy a coca-cola can do you have the right to the secret formula?

A more pertinent question would be what was the agreement here between the parties? That is only something they know I guess
To comment on this: The problem is my map and ECU control goes well beyond a simple Ecutek fuel and ignition map and there are many parameters I need access to on a weekly basis as the car has undergone constant 'at event' development for years. I have GPS based launch and traction control, logging, gearshift control and a few other features that have nothing to do with the engine map. If it were possible to password just the engine map then I wouldn't have a problem with that as I would never alter the engine fuelling or ignition - I leave that up to the people that know what they are doing and who have the facilities to make sure the engine is safe. It's the other areas of the ECU file I need to be able to play with. At events I have been dialling in launch to find small improvements for example. Had this to be done by a remote third party at weekends via a laptop and reliant on a mobile signal i'd be stuffed for doing simple changes, such as setting up a gear pot or strain gauges should either need replaced mid-event.

FYI password protection was never discussed at any of my trips to Simons dyno
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Thanks Darin:smthumbup Back on track again :)

Now I can get on with the job in hand - fitting the new engine into tiddles.
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Great stuff! Awaiting updates and hopefully piccy's :)
Look forward to the updates on this :coolsm:
I have all weekend to do this so updates by Sunday eve hopefully.:)
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Quick update:

The weather was so good over the weekend I took the opportunity to do outdoor work that's been needing done but couldn't be due to the weeks of rain we had through August and Sept:lol:

I did get some work done, the gearbox bellhousing is welded and the engine is ready to come off the stand so it's just the flywheel & clutch to fit, bolt the box to the engine and it's ready to go back in.

There's no hurry now. The season is finished so there are no more events this year that I could have made it to anyway. No point in rushing it ;)
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Sorry no more progress on Tiddles. The weather was good again so more outdoor jobs to deal with at the weekend. All I need to do is get the engine back in so i'm going to try and get it done this week

O/T this also arrived yesterday so I have a few projects over the winter :D

It's been lying unused for 6 years so it doesn't run at the moment, and a bit of polishing is needed. Someone has spent a lot of time polishing the alloy wheels, frame, forks etc. initially and if the tank is anything to go by (5 mins with Autosol), the rest should come up nice. Not that i'm a 'polisher' of course :lol:

The tank is hand made with the top shaped from a single piece of aluminium :eek:

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Quick update,

Outside forces had stopped me working on the car for the last while but i'm back on it now. The engine is in and will be running on Saturday and hopefully onto the dyno for bedding-in before Christmas :smthumbup

I'll update as and when I have news
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Outside forces had stopped me working on the car for the last while...
Just buy her some flowers Donald ;)
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Just buy her some flowers Donald ;)
Wasn't that outside force :lol:. Work, house, child, dogs, carbon etc
Wasn't that outside force :lol:. Work, house, child, dogs, carbon etc
and nothing to do with an SD1:D
and nothing to do with an SD1:D
:handsup:
That's her back up and running now :D

All i've done is run her up to temperature and checked for any leaks and so far all is good. Next is dyno for running in. :smthumbup
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That's the engine bedded in so now I can get going with the winter modifications. Many changes to be fabricated, plumbed and wired in before it's next on the dyno.

The engine is all good and health :smthumbup

Thanks to Matty and Brian at Wallace Performance and their nice shiny new dyno :D
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That's the engine bedded in so now I can get going with the winter modifications. Many changes to be fabricated, plumbed and wired in before it's next on the dyno.

The engine is all good and health :smthumbup

Thanks to Matty and Brian at Wallace Performance and their nice shiny new dyno :D
No probs Donald happy to help and we'll see you soon back at WP Garage:smthumbup
No probs Donald happy to help and we'll see you soon back at WP Garage:smthumbup
I'll be back after a marathon of wiring and system changes :smthumbup

Not planning on doing much to Tiddles for the next 2 weeks as the SD1 is up on the ramp now. I'm hoping got get the SD1 into primer ready for paint by New Year.

I'll update in January when I start tearing Tiddles apart again

Merry Christmas to all. Hope 2016 is a better year for everyone

Donald
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Hi Donald,
This thread is looking a bit quiet so I thought I'd post.

I have a bit of a challenge for you. As this car has never won an MLRSS event outside Scotland....and only in Scotland on those tiny tracks like Ingliston and Kames, I wondered if you were brave enough to venture south a bit and take the likes of me and liddy on in class D at a track where you actually get to do speeds over 100mph?

Croft is the closest one for you on Sat 3rd September? Or maybe even venture down to an even better track. Cadwell Park on 29th October.

I'm sure it will be a great day out and we will all get along swimmingly. Are you up for the challenge big boy?
Simple answer- no.

Tiddles is in storage with no plans to compete this year. Is that a good enough reason for you? I'm taking time out to get on with some other long term projects.

And anyway Kenny, you're the last person I want to see.
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When i see the thread i thought it may be a good time to ask if you had changed your mind about pics of the set up .
Ah well thats answered i suppose :)
Hi Donald.

Are you competing in anything else this year, or is it a non competitive project year. ?
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