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Claudius

What pressure were you running and amp; what was the ambient temp ?

Suprised that they heated up so much this time of year , unless over inflated ?
 
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Was it a proper track, or an airfield - surfaces on airfields are bastards to tyres!

You must be sliding too much too! Try less lock when turning in :D

Did you have alot of understeer?
 
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Yes, I did have a lot of understeer. I have AYC!! (Well, it stopped working after 4 laps...)

I'm really pïssed off with the AYC now, cost me 200 GBP in tyres for 4 days!!
 
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Claudius, check your geometry !!
I doubt if Tommi Mak in Corsica could do that in 8 miles on ashphalt !!
 
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Peely, the geometry was adjusted right after the tyres were fitted.
I am sure that that fuckin treator could destroy the tyres over the same distance, except it might be harder work without the AYC! :D
Next time I see him I will kick his butt, cant believe I have a car with his name on it and he drives a Scooby!!! :(
 
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claudius

lol, great effort!

however these are the control tyre for porsche cup racing here and sure they ball up but u seem to have done the edges in but have plenty of tread left?

also what size are these?

as others have said something has to be wrong with the geometry or something
what settings are u running?

andrew
 
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Tommi would have a great advantage, a full roll cage. Even if Claudius has his geometry OK, the amount of body flex could be a factor particularly with his rock hard suspension. In effect, even if his static geometry is spot on, his dynamic geometry could be all over the place. I believe that this was one of the lessons Blade learnt on his motor.
 
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In fact, it appears the tyres had been re-cut and were in fact fucked when I got them. I usually dont buy stuff from that particular place, but my rallye team didnt have any left... :( Time for my Corsican friends to pay a visit there... :D


Simon,

you are right about the roll cage. But not about the suspension: it is not rock hard, it has stiff springs and is very efficient, not hard, which is very different! Anyway, I was quoted EUR 3000, like GBP 2000 to get a made to measure roll cage fitted by a MAtter approved suspension and rallye specialist in my area. They said it takes 3 days to strip the car, 3 days to do the welding etc and like a week to put everything back in. The rollcage will be extra I guess. What do think? Worth it? I dont find that too expensive!
 
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In fact, I meant that they strip, reweld and put back together the car in 2 weeks for GBP 2000 and that I will have to pay an extra GBP 600 to 800 for the roll cage. Sorry for the confusion!
 
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Claudius

I wasn't trying to say that your suspension is too hard. However, the limiting factor could now be bodyshell stiffness. Have you got lower strut braces, such as the Cusco stuff? That would also help.

Sorry to hear that the tyres were dead before you even drove them. Send round those friends:D
 
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Claudius - it is definitely worth it. It is that more than anything else that stops my car eating tyres. Simon is bang on.

However, you can improve your stiffness :)D) massively with :|EQU|

1) Cusco lower 4 point and 2 point braces
2) Cusco front and rear 3 point strut braces
3) Viagra :D

I have got all of that, stiffer rollbars, rollcage and everything. Saves a fortune in tyres. You don't need a full weld in cage - even a bolt in half-cage helps. Obviously, the full on cage that bolts to the struts is the best, but not on a track - it doesn't make a hooj difference.

Take some weight out too (goodby subwoofer!)

Warning - if you put a full cage it is REALLY difficult to get in and out - girls won't like it! Makes it difficult to have sex in the car too :-O
 
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I think the cage is around £600, but fitting is up to you. You can get a trick rear cage that just bolts in, so that is only a day or so to fit. Full on cages require removing everything, and that costs alot - maybe not as much as £2,000 to fit (that is like a week of labour!)
 
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Simon,

Spot on again (did you meet up with Wazup or something??)! I have CUSCO front strut brace and lower arm bar (4 points), the single bar on order. Cant fit a rear because of the subwoofer. You can see all my mods and pictures on http://www.lancerforums.com/registry/vehicles.php?vid|EQU|91

Blade

Spanks for your stiffness recommendations! ;) The price I was quoted is in fact for 2 weeks labor, the time needed to throw EVERYTHING out, REWELD the car ENTIRELY and fit everything back on. Is yours rewelded (Simon calls it seam welded or sthg if memory serves me right) as well? If so, I am about to be ripped off!

Simon, a pic of my (blue) CUSCO lower arm bar (4 points) just for you:

with HKS downpipe


those are the 540s that were almost dead and died on Sunday

No need to send the Corsicans over, the guy agreed to give me 4 new tyres! :) He must have thought I was a pssy driver and that they would last or sthg. :D
 
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