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Is anyone running an extreme twin carbon plated clutch?

I've got one to replace my single plate and bought it on the understanding that it was a user friendly clutch for city driving.

After talking to a local evo specialist who is building my gearbox he tells me that the twin carbon plate is savage and does not advice me using it but to go for an exedy twin plate instead

Anyone offer me some feedback on their experiences?

Need to decide for I want to risk using it or sell it on
 

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I've been told it's savage on pull off, I.e go for biting point and the car just lunges forward.

This is what I'm trying to avoid, I want a clutch I can use daily without it ****ing me off
 

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Ok, well only going what ive read on here, carbon twins need heat in them to work, so slip badly under normal road use. I maybe wrong about this but dont think I am.

I ran an exedy twin SD (not carbon) for several years, and yes it is more on off switch like than a single, but nothing you dont get use too, imo no where near as bad as a paddle clutch, and i certainly wouldnt call it savage, my mum borrowed my car and got use to it within 5 minutes. Cant speak for other twins, but non carbon exedy twins are tried and tested on here and generally liked for higher power

I stress, look into using a carbon clutch, it has been discussed on here in the past, and for road use, they can slip badly

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I ran an exedra HD twin as well! Yes again is a bit of on / off, but once up to speed is fine! Avoid any traffic jam if you can. My legs gets a bit tired after 20 mins. It is heavier then normal but it last longer! My old one lasted over 50K miles.
 

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Cars running approx 520-540bhp

But no confirmed figures as it's never been dyno'd
 

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Cars running approx 520-540bhp

But no confirmed figures as it's never been dyno'd
ahhh fair enough, I should have asked :lol:

I just did a quick search and the twin carbon appears to be a bit marmite, some love, others hate, others saying the tripple is better, there is as i thought people saying they slip for road use and dont last long.

I suppose running higher power there is going to be a trade off of comfort for function

Stu
 

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Yeah I realised I'll always need to have something in between drivability and reliability for the power

I thought the extreme carbon twin plate was the right choice but after today's talk with the gearbox builder he tells me they are savage and doesn't recommend it at all
 

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Yeah I realised I'll always need to have something in between drivability and reliability for the power

I thought the extreme carbon twin plate was the right choice but after today's talk with the gearbox builder he tells me they are savage and doesn't recommend it at all
I would like to say we have sold very small numbers of twin Carbon kits for the Evo into the UK market I could count on one hand, we have in fact sold a lot more into the Subaru guys. The boss of Whiteline Europe runs the exact same kit in his car (has done for years) and I wouldn't say it was savage in anyway. The Carbon material used offers a progressive pedal and is actually less aggressive than the Ceramic material we also offer. That being said I would not recommend this kit for road use in the sense of traffic stop start as the Carbon gives the sensation of being especially light but under constant modulation in traffic you would bring the kit to a premature end. It is after all a competition clutch and this is its intended use.

I would say the guy doing the transmission would probably have never tried this kit in question. Like i say it is a Motorsport clutch and if you are just using the car for everyday use we would recommend Our New twin Organic kit.

Any questions don't hesitate to ask.

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For more info on the Twin Organic for those interested here is the link...

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=508198

I'm being told contrasting opinions from numerous ppl which has got me wondering what to do.

The car is running in the region of 520-540bhp (I have no proof tho)

I like to drive spiritedly and will be doing the odd 1/4 mile days and the odd track days.

So I need something that'll handle the power and not be a pain to drive when I do use it to go to the shops or whatever.

The guy building the gearbox does a lot of rally cars and says he's driven them on a few occasions and doesn't like them at all (and says he's a dealer for xtreme)

He also told me an organic will never handle the power/usage.

So I'm unsure where to go from here. I'm in two minds of just trying the clutch and see how it feels
 

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i run the exedy twin plate clutch on my TME with 550/480 and have had no problems, it takes getting use to but once you master it its fine, can be noisy as times though, rattles somethimes
 

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I'm being told contrasting opinions from numerous ppl which has got me wondering what to do.

The car is running in the region of 520-540bhp (I have no proof tho)

I like to drive spiritedly and will be doing the odd 1/4 mile days and the odd track days.

So I need something that'll handle the power and not be a pain to drive when I do use it to go to the shops or whatever.

The guy building the gearbox does a lot of rally cars and says he's driven them on a few occasions and doesn't like them at all (and says he's a dealer for xtreme)

He also told me an organic will never handle the power/usage.

So I'm unsure where to go from here. I'm in two minds of just trying the clutch and see how it feels
For me, I would go for a new (not second hand replated) Exedy twin HD, not carbon. Tried and tested for may years, but I have the advantage of using an exedy twin SD for several years at only 400hp so know the pro's and cons. If you are talking 1/4 miles then i'd assume you want launching, while still having road manners too, an Exedy twin HD is commonly used for this. If budget isnt an issue, maybe even look at tripples, but my guess is tripples are overkill for your needs

Cant comment on other makes of twins as the Exedy twin SD is the only twin I have experience of

Stu
 

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I'm running a carbotech twin plate on mine it feels a little heavier than stock but bring the revs a lil higher and drag it a lil and pull always are fine
 

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In the form of a single Organic you (your tuner) would be right in saying that but in the form of the Twin Organic that isn't the case as it is rated to 895ft.lbs which is more than capable. In fact similar torque ratings to most triple plate kits.
Could I swap out the carbon plates for organic ones? Or is the clutch different all together
 
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