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Hi all,
Im looking at purchasing my first Evo, i am torn between an Evo 9 and 10 and would like peoples opinions!

I have around 15/17k to spend on a new car, and it will be the car i use everyday. I have a very small commute to work everyday (around 14 miles) so i dont need anything to economical. I like the 4 wheel drive of the evo, and i like to have something quick but not silly.

My preliminary looking has pushed me towards a X as it seems to have a nicer interior and has some of the mod cons i like - sat nav, Ipod connectivity, cruise control - it seems like a car i can live with everyday.

Some questions i have:

With the Evo 9 and 10, will my budget get me a good car?

I like the idea of having an auto box (i had a DSG previously) but i know that there are auto boxes and then there are autoboxes! What is the Evo X autobox like? ie - is it as good as the DSG?

Service intervals seem to be pretty bad - from my reading every 4500 miles - is this true?

When looking over cars, is there anything particular i should watch out for?

Are there any specific issues with the Evo X engine for me to be aware of?

Im seeing alot of cars with higher mileage 50k plus, are these cheap because they are falling apart? Or is the engine good for 100,000 miles plus?

Thanks for all your help, and if anyone can recommend some garages in Bristol which sell them, im all ears!
 

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Ive had a 400hp 5 for over 13 years, wanted a 9 next and ended up with a 10

First of all the 10 isnt an auto, its a twin clutch, kind of an automatic clutch, the car can choose the gears automatically or you can choose them manually, just clutchless

I would say as a daily drive the 10sst is a very nice car, and a good all rounder. In my opinion the earlier cars are fun fast car, great for a blast, but a little comprimised for a daily, the X sst a great daily, but not as much of a toy for a blast.

Dont discount the 10 manual, they are more money, but if I had my time again, i'd have tried a manual before I bought an SST. 10's are more money if you want to start modding, 400hp is cheap on a 9, to get past about 380 on an sst starts to cost substancially, the 10 is heavier too

All evo's suffer AYC pump faults, so you are looking for the right lights, ie no faults there, rust is a big issue as evo's get older, so get underneath, and have a good look

As for the 10, there are known timing chain, and fuel pump relay issues. Search on here should tell you all you need to know

If you do go for an SST, it maybe worth getting it checked over by a specialist in your area that knows 10's, especially sst's well

Your budget should give you a lot of 10 sst's to choose from, and easily get you a good condition low miles model. It would also get you 1 with the right mods to up the power. It should also give you a few 10 manuals to choose from, and about right for a tidy 9 too

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Just to add to what Stu said, the 4500 service interval stopped quite a while back (the VI or VII?), both the IX and X have more sensible service intervals of 9k (maybe slightly more) or a year, whichever is sooner. Also the higher spec IXs still come with satnav and not all Xs have cruise control, wasn't it an add-on? I certainly wouldn't plan on it coming with CC anyway.

The X is defo the better car in pretty much every respect, it kinda depends what you want from it, they're both great cars the main difference being the interior and toys. A bunch of people will jump on this thread to make out that the IX is come kind of rally-prepped monster and the X is a rebadged Vectra, just a "daily driver evo" but ignore those people and their nonsense :lol: VIII owners said the same thing about the IX when it came out, VII owners said the same about the VI and so on.

If you're wanting to buy a high-miler I'd maybe err more toward the IX or the manual X as anything to do with the SST box isn't going to be cheap, but you're stuck with 5 gears in the manual X. Obviously it'll be easier to find a lower-mileage X and you shouldn't have too many issues with that budget.

These might be of interest;

My thoughts on my VI, VIII and X
My thoughts on the SST
 

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I have a ix, it is an old car now and the interior is dated compared to the newer stuff. If i was to use it everyday i would go for a nice looked after, clean low milage 10 with sst. Remember to check it for rust underneath.
 

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When are you looking to buy out of interest? I have a manual X which I'm potentially looking to sell in Jan/Feb. Never owned any of the older models but have loved my 2 years with my X and will be sad to see it go (new job and need to get a daily driver for the commute). Not to hijack your thread but just in case the timing works...
 

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Welcome to the forum, i purchased a 9 around 4months ago and planned on having it as a daily driver as only do 20miles a day then another 150 over the weekend. After about 2weeks i reinsured my other car and keep the evo for the weekend.
Personally a 10 would be perfect for a all rounder i find the 9 abit dare i say boring on the work commute id much rather sit in my other car with all the mod cons.
17k should get you a low mileage 9 but they are on the up, if you use the search you will find a good few buyers guides.
 

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There's no question in my mind that the SST (equivalent to DSG) is the way to go. But the problem seems to be that they need a lot more servicing than Mitsubishi recommend. I've owned four of then with mileages ranging from 20K to 55k and they've all have some kind of issue -ranging from minor to really poor. With the "poor" car I had new clutch packs and a full internals cleanup and it came back driving as new, or perhaps even better than new as it had the latest software loaded at the same time. I sold that car to a fellow MLR Member and he's since done another 20K miles and says the box is still working just fine (total mileage now around 75k).

On my latest car the gearbox has had a recent fluid change, latest software and "re-learn" (which I think mainly entails re-setting the clutch bite points), but I'm still not 100% happy with it, so will shorty get the box taken apart, fully cleaned up, new clutch packs and, of course, new fluid. I expect I'm looking at at least £2k for that to be done, but it has to be worth it in order to get the operation to where I know it can and should be.

If you're in or anywhere near the Leeds area I'd be happy to demonstrate what's right, and not right, and/or assist with any viewings you might want to make:)
 

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I use my 400/400 9GT daily on a 22 mile each way, mostly motorway commute and tbh would not recommend it. The twin plate clutch I have is horrible in traffic (my fault as its overkill for the current spec), the fuel consumption horrific for cruising at 70mph and the lack of cruise control annoying.

I absolutely love my 9GT and have zero plans to get rid, but for this use it is not the car for the job and I would much rather be in a X SST out of the 2 models.
 

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There's no question in my mind that the SST (equivalent to DSG) is the way to go. But the problem seems to be that they need a lot more servicing than Mitsubishi recommend. I've owned four of then with mileages ranging from 20K to 55k and they've all have some kind of issue -ranging from minor to really poor. With the "poor" car I had new clutch packs and a full internals cleanup and it came back driving as new, or perhaps even better than new as it had the latest software loaded at the same time. I sold that car to a fellow MLR Member and he's since done another 20K miles and says the box is still working just fine (total mileage now around 75k).

On my latest car the gearbox has had a recent fluid change, latest software and "re-learn" (which I think mainly entails re-setting the clutch bite points), but I'm still not 100% happy with it, so will shorty get the box taken apart, fully cleaned up, new clutch packs and, of course, new fluid. I expect I'm looking at at least £2k for that to be done, but it has to be worth it in order to get the operation to where I know it can and should be.

If you're in or anywhere near the Leeds area I'd be happy to demonstrate what's right, and not right, and/or assist with any viewings you might want to make:)
Out of interest, what were the faults or niggles, and what was fixed with a rebuild?

Have you tried Dodson clutches?

Im in a bit of a dilema with mine, it all works fine, but I want more power than the 380 I have. It all gets a bit expensive to go any further. I really like the sst as a daily, but not so keen for a spirited drive. 1 mistake I may have made was not trying a manual 10 first. So, for the cost of a gearbox rebuild with dodson clutches, I can see there maybe an option to convert to manual gearbox. Not sure its been done on here, but have read about it being done on another forum. 1 problem with my decision making is I havent got a bench mark to compare my sst against, I assume mine works fine, I suspect it does, but at the moment its my limiting factor to get the car to the power (feel) I wanted

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I use my 400/400 9GT daily on a 22 mile each way, mostly motorway commute and tbh would not recommend it. The twin plate clutch I have is horrible in traffic (my fault as its overkill for the current spec), the fuel consumption horrific for cruising at 70mph and the lack of cruise control annoying.

I absolutely love my 9GT and have zero plans to get rid, but for this use it is not the car for the job and I would much rather be in a X SST out of the 2 models.
Exactly the opposite for me :lol: I bought the SST as a great daily, which it truly is, but I live on the job, rarely travel far, and miss the feel of the earlier evo, driving the 400 hp 5 was a buzz rather than a pleasure, which was fine for my usage, the X SST is a pleasure, but not a buzz, and I do miss that buzz

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Stu, when I first got my 9 I worked in Southport and I loved it down all the country lanes through Lathom, Burscough, Scarisbrick etc. Now I work near Lymm Truckstop so go down the ****test stretch of M6 going I find myself using my bike as much as I can. A 9GT is built for driving, not motorway commuting.
 

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Stu, when I first got my 9 I worked in Southport and I loved it down all the country lanes through Lathom, Burscough, Scarisbrick etc. Now I work near Lymm Truckstop so go down the ****test stretch of M6 going I find myself using my bike as much as I can. A 9GT is built for driving, not motorway commuting.
I live in Halsall, just next to scarisbrick, the roads round here are perfect for evo's 1 to 9 :D The 10 is also noticibly bigger on the small backroads

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Ive been trying to work out where you live for years. Might have to meet up and put a face to the name. I probably ride past yours when I go the Scotch.
 

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Ive been trying to work out where you live for years. Might have to meet up and put a face to the name. I probably ride past yours when I go the Scotch.
I live on the same road as the Scotch, so very likely, the bikers go right past mine as they move from the Scotch towards Southport :smthumbup Let us know when you are over next :smthumbup

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Out of interest, what were the faults or niggles, and what was fixed with a rebuild?

Have you tried Dodson clutches?

Stu
The car that had new clutch packs and thorough clean out started out in my ownership with a judder when taking up 1st gear and was really slurry through all the changes. With the others it's been much more subtle. A good test imo is how it changes gear from first to second when really cold. Anything other than totally smooth and precise change simply isn't right or as good as it can be. Another tell-tale is when stuck in traffic and how the software manages trickling along or when stop/starting on an incline. Mostly it's tolerable and/or you can learn to drive round it, but a really well sorted car deals with it just like an automatic would.

On my latest SST I'll be upgrading to the Dodson 450ft lbs clutch packs and adding the Dodson sump. I'm told that the gearshifts are no harsher than with standard clutchpacks. And the sump upgrade is in case the car is used in anger on the track.
 

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The car that had new clutch packs and thorough clean out started out in my ownership with a judder when taking up 1st gear and was really slurry through all the changes. With the others it's been much more subtle. A good test imo is how it changes gear from first to second when really cold. Anything other than totally smooth and precise change simply isn't right or as good as it can be. Another tell-tale is when stuck in traffic and how the software manages trickling along or when stop/starting on an incline. Mostly it's tolerable and/or you can learn to drive round it, but a really well sorted car deals with it just like an automatic would.

On my latest SST I'll be upgrading to the Dodson 450ft lbs clutch packs and adding the Dodson sump. I'm told that the gearshifts are no harsher than with standard clutchpacks. And the sump upgrade is in case the car is used in anger on the track.
When you say first to second should be smooth when cold, is that true for s-sport too. I have to admit I have no reason to think there is any issue with mine, but first to second at lower revs can feel a little harsh, like you've just caught the brake a little, but this is only occasional and definitely not a problem as such

Will you give feedback on here on the Dodson please :smthumbup

Stu
 
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