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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Hi there!

I'm looking at buying an Evo III; 1995 'M' plate, 49 000 miles. It's tidy inside and out, and is advertised for 12-13K.

Any advice on whether this is a good price, and what to look for when I take a test drive?

Also, any hints on ownership, insurance, servicing etc. (specifically in Scotland) would be very helpful.

My email's [email protected] and hopefully someone can help me out!
 
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E3 prices range from £10.5k to about £13k, so the price seems OK, if a bit on the high side. Doesn't stop you haggling like a ******* though http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/biggrin1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle >

Usual things to look out for on a test drive inc. any blue smoke (no-no), black smoke on acceleration is OK. All early Evo interiors rattle and creak - don't worry about it. Test clutch for slippage (high gear/low speed and floor it). Check ALL electrics inc. aircon. It's late but I'm sure others will pipe up with the things I've forgotten [img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/happy1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle >

Insurance is a killer unless you're a 60yo librarian with full no claims - deal with it [img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/happy1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle > Also the 4500m servicing regime gets a bit expensive if you are doing a lot of miles.

Where abouts in Scotland are you?
 
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I fully intend to haggle like hell; this month's Top Marques has a 1997 P Evo IV with 28k on the clock for £11 495, so they had better undercut that by a bit...!

Insurance I expect to kill me, as I'm young, so no surprises when I come to get quotes....

I won't be doing too many miles; I can probably keep it to a service every 6 months. How much is a service?
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
I get mine done for about £90, you could diy for about £60-80 depending on how much you want to spend on oil.

Whereabouts is the car?
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Expect insurance to cost between £900 and £1700 depending on where you live and the state of your licence
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
I'm in Edinburgh (ish) and the car's in Peebles. £200 a year for servicing is no problem. If I can get insurance within that band I'd be happy; I'm 21, with a slightly stained license and a modest amount of no claims.
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Before you do anything else get an Insurance quote!
To be honest there probably won't be many companies that will won't to quote you given your age and the car (high performance grey import).

Try Tett Hamilton (is that right?) search this forum for postings about insurance and get ringing! Above all good luck and I hope it works out OK.
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Come to New Zealand!!! Im 19 and have full insurance on my Evo 5. But then again.. that was a real *@)#*@ in getting insurance on. 2 months of haggling with a company just for a evo. Im glad they are worth it
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Tett Hamilton won`t insurance a driver with such an age like 21 ...as I try for my friend last time
Age 21 to insure a grey import high performance is nearly impossible.
Do bear in mind parts availability on EVO 1,2, and amp;3 are more rare or long wait.
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
I've had a relatively sensible quote from Tesco, of all people. If anyone can recommend an insurer who will touch a 21 year old on an Evo 3, please let me know!
 
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Hi again,

Thanks to all who replied. http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/happy1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle >

I've now been to see the car and have a few more comments. First, it's in perfect condition; It looks new, absolutely unblemished even under very very close inspection inside and out.

However, there were a couple of things that niggled with me a bit, so I thought I'd post and beg for advice before I ring the dealer back early this coming week.

First, it's 49 000km, not miles as I mentioned in my first post. [img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/happy1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle >

Second, it WASN'T imported new into the UK. It came into the UK when it was a couple of years old. It was a 1995 car, brought into the UK in 1997. Is this as big a danger as I think.......?

Third, does an Evo III need high-octane fuel? The dealer seems to know what he's talking about, but his salesman who's not long off the phone assures me that it's been run in the 14 months they've had it on 95 RON regular unleaded. Advice...?

Fourth, was there a standard alarm and/or immobiliser fitted to the Evo III? I forgot to ask, but there was no evidence of one when I drove it.

It seems very good, I'm just a little worried that its first couple of years in Japan might count against any eventual resale, and that the engine'll explode in a month due to it being run on unleaded. If anyone has any advice, I'd be really grateful if you could post, and a copy to me at [email protected] would be terribly nice as I'm always forgetting to check these forums.

They're still wanting £12 900 for it.... fair?

Thanks!
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Fuel: Don't think of running anything but SUL in it - 6p a litre is nothing compared to a full Evo engine rebild (ask Heave Ho!)

Alarm/immobiliser: If the car had one fitted as standard (doubtful) it would be crap anyway. If it has been insured in the UK before it must have had a Cat1 fitted. If for some reason it doesn't and the guy doesn't want to budge on the price, ask him to fit one for you in lieu of a discount - it's worth around £2-300.

I wouldn't worry about the car's usage in Japan, it's more likely to have been thrashed over here! Can you get the previous owner's details off the seller? Can often give you an insight into the car's former treatment. If the dealer won't tell you or seems evasive, why?
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
Yikes! So if he's been running it since before last Summer on regular unleaded, how much trouble is the poor engine in?

He's happy to give me the previous owner details, they're being faxed tomorrow to me. The car was imported and bought as soon as it entered the UK by this dealer, sold, and then traded back in to them, so they've been looking after the car since it came here. It's been fully serviced by an Evo / Impreza import specialist in the Borders, but they've claimed it's every 6000 miles it needs done... I thought it was 4500?

I'm *slightly* concerned that it might not have been serviced perfectly if they've been waiting 1500 miles too long, and that the internals will be on their way to becoming mush due to the wrong fuel being used.

I was planning on demanding a cat 1 system to be installed if there wasn't one. I'm young enough to make insurance awkward without that adding to it.

If anyone can mention what regular unleaded would do to the engine, and what I should say to this dealer about it, I'd be interested...

In case anyone's interested, he's actually a large franchised Honda dealer, bizarrely.
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Ah! The old Unleaded / Super Unleaded discussion ! As some will remember, I ran one of the first Evo 4 GSRs in the country for two years, covering 40,000 miles. I only ever used 95 ron Unleaded (no-one told me any different, and I could not read the Japanese handbook!). Mostly motorway cruising but some long blasts on full boost (eg Amsterdam to Calais, late at night!) Never a problem, so (in my opinion) don't be put off by a history of Unleaded. For the future, perhaps follow Chunky's advice (better safe than sorry).

See my posting thread on problems with Super Unleaded a few weeks ago.
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
You guys are stars! http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/happy1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle >

Okay, so as long as I get an alarm fitted, and find some moron happy to insure me, I'm there. [img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/happy1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle > I'll keep you all updated and pester you with more questions soon.
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
I wouldn't worry about the engine being damaged due to running 95RON, the ECU automagically detects and runs the appropriate ignition for whatever fuel is used and with the over-fuelling that Evos are famous for http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/happy1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle > theres little chance that anything will be amiss.

It's just that the car will run better on 97RON, you might not notice much more power, but you might actually get more mpg!

See [URL]http://www.repairfaq.org/filipg/AUTO/F_Gasoline1.html[/URL] and [URL]http://www.repairfaq.org/filipg/AUTO/F_Gasoline6.html#GASOLINE_014[/URL] in particular for the hows and whys of octane.
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
You might also think about using octane booster there has been many posts that can tell you the best. But it may hello to clean the engine out also using the oil you can buy on turbo engines that not where you want to scimp.
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
What do people think of the prospect of insuring one through another family member, with myself as a named driver...?
 
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