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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Sorry if this has been covered in another thread but I'm new here !!

After having an Impreza Turbo I was looking to buy either an STi or Lancer Evo. Although I'd prefer an Evo 5 I know the Subaru and know it's reliability record. Could someone please give me a few pointers with the living with an Evo .

I've heard some horror stories about servicing requirements every 5k miles, difficulty with Mitsubishi dealers treatment of imports, changing oil in either the steering rack or front suspension. Are they really such hard work ?

Is the gearing different on UK spec Vs Grey cars ? I can imagine that Jap imports are lower geared to cope with the 112mph restriction.

Help !!

Thanks

Marcus
 
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Marcus,

servicing IS every 4500 miles but it doesn't have to be that expensive. You are best going to an EVO specialist who know what they are doing as opposed to a Mitsi dealer (unless you have warranty regulations to honour) and servicing will be cheaper like 130-230quid. I personally don't see this as a problem a high performance car should be serviced very regularly particularly if you do any track work. Don't know what horror stories you've heard - just go to someone decent like steve hill Msports or Dragon Autosport or even Ralliart if you want to pay top dollar but have piece of mind of using the official outfit.

Only common and amp; consistently experienced nightmare with an EVO is the brake discs warping which seems to happen a lot (but not everyone) but mostly on the E6 and on trackdays and/or heavy use.

Don't know anything or aware of any issues with stering rack or front suspension fluid. What has been suggested by owners as an issue is that you change your gearbox oil before the recommended 36K miles.

Gearing is the same on the same car for UK and amp; grey cars. The only lower geared cars are the RS variants such as the RS, RS2, RS sprint, Extreme etc..

see www.jackals-forge.com/lotus/evo/evo_buying.html for more info
 
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Marcus,
I can only pass on personal comment on running costs but mine are as follows:

Insurance: £1400 ish but can very significantly and its wise to get a few quotes before you start shopping around for the car.
Petrol: Approx £60 / week depending upon use. You normally get around 200-220 miles to a tank (50 litres) if you drive it reasonablly sensible.
Servicing every 4,500 miles. Costs vary depoending on who you take it to. There are other threads around detailing peoples personal choices when it comes to who is best to service them. Try the search function.

Regarding treatment of imports etc.. it's very much the same as buying any other car. Check over its history as much as possible and check everything you can about the car. The other problem area with Evo 6's in particular is the dreaded warped brakes (which I luckily have avoided so far) but this seems to be hit and miss.

The gearing isn't changed (AFAIK) between the UK and Jap cars because they all come from the same production line. The UK cars are only so-called because RalliartUK register them in the UK rather than the cars being registered abroad and then brought to the UK.

Hope this helps start off your interest. I believe that Heave Ho 6 is STILL ;) putting together an FAQ section for the site and this will include something like a buyers guide.

Andy
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Any recommendations for service places in W.Cumbria?

And I'm looking forward to Heave-Ho6's FAQ :)
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Dave,
AFAIK there are only 2 Mitsubishi dealers in West Cumbria and they are Minories in Carlisle (01228) 595960 and Dobies in Workington (01900) 606674.

Hope this helps

Andy
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
I have a few questions too, hope you don't mind

Insurance and Petrol cost are pretty much what I am used to already and the gearbox oil change is understandable too having noticed the difference a fluid change at 21k made to my little Fiat but the servicing seems a touch over the top though, What gets done on a 4500 mile service, I can understand the need for frequent plug and oil change on a highly tuned turbo engine, I do it to mine that frequently between services but what else is done every 4500miles for £200.

Other questions, whats the clutch life and cost, for me on the Fiat Coupe it was 32k and £600, which I didn't appreciate but it has been suggested that there were a bad batch of clutches on the Six speed Coupe, I would imagine the Evo clutch takes abit more of a battering as you wheels won't break traction as easy as my FWD car and so something would have to give

How does the standard Evo clutch cope when you have a modded Evo, I know there are a few on here with modded ones pushing some good torque figures, do you ever experience any clutch slip when the car is overboosting

Tyre life, whats it like on a fairly well driven Evo and about 200 miles of track use (2 track days) I'd get about 8000 out of mine with rotation and whats it cost for a tyre, could somebody tell me the size so I can find out, not been to see any yet, but am considering one, my current car is good but I quite like the Evo (has to be 5 or 6) and reckon the driving experience will be a lot different, easier to live with having 4WD

Also the warping disc problem, is that more to do with the driver using the brakes to gradually slow the car rather than stop it, basically holding on the pedal but not rapidly slowing so getting a lot of heat into those bigs discs and getting them all out of shape, rather than a problem with the Lancers Discs itself?

I basically assuming that an Evo won't cost me a lot more to run than my Coupe but will be a more sorted car, anybody know any different.

Any decent places to get one or to get the car looked after in the Bristol or South West area.

Cheers
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Hi Sandy


My car has had no problems since I bought it... but then it aint a Lotus so it doesn't really surprise me :) I have done 7000 miles after buying it with 7K on the clock. Its still on its first set of pads and tyres and clutch is fine and I do give it a good hiding on the road quite regularly.

Most people seem to have had good experiences with evos on this board but its a very subjective thing given how different we all theoretically drive. A set of tyres (around 120-150 quid each, 225 45 ZR17) could last 1 airfield day or over 14K miles like mine.The discs is the most frequent problem and despite long long debates it appears that its nothing to do with driving style as to whether you warp them or not. As for the clutch, they will go if you start sidestepping it and doing 1/4 mile times etc.. but even if you are into this, a replacement could be less than the price of a trackday so who cares ?

When all is said and done. The Evo is more likely to veer toward being a higher maintenance machine and you would be wise to treat it as such and amp; budget for that, particularly if you intend driving hard a lot (they only feel at home when you are !). If you want to save money or money is tight then I would consider looking at a different type of car. However, I am a firm believer that the actual build on these things is very very strong and very good and as for the engine, its very very tough even if you start the mod game.

If you do get one the best thing is not to skimp but really lavish a nice bit of dosh on it. Get it a real proper set of tyres, change the fluids more often that the service schedule says ,get the disks sorted if they warp and get it serviced lovingly and on time by the best people you can travel to. Much better this way, you're happy and evo is happy - once you get into the way the thing drives you'll want to treat it with plenty of TLC and this way you have more chance of avoiding any really big bills.


good luck


R
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Its alright I have no misconceptions about owning a quick car, I am also pretty fanatical about my cars and the Coupe won't be going far, the girlfriend may have it, before I bought the Coupe I was torn between the Coupe and an Evo and I went for the Coupe thinking it was the sensible option, in that it looked good, goes like stink and was about 7k cheaper than the Evo, since having it though after a few track days and upping the power and stuff I have realized that the FWD chassis as good as it is, is letting a good car down, I don't skimp on it, not had it a year and have spent £7-8k on it, what with general maintenance tyres, suspension mods, brake upgrades, chargecooler, Unichip etc etc. Just reckon I could be blowing my cash on a better car, so have gone back to looking at the Evo, but have heard a few bad stories, going to have to try one, and keep reading the forum.

Just too a look at your site Jackal, some nice info on there, handy.

Cheers
 
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