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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I was asked by someone what the relationship is between a Mitsi Lancer and the EVolution models and didn't know the answer. Do they actually share any components .... surely the development of the EVolution road going models is completely separate and ultimately derived from the Lancer 2000, lancer evo1 rs and teh Galant VR4 ? If so, then why is the evo a lancer ?

sorry, i may sound thick here but really not sure

regrads

Rich
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
Becuase the Evo's (1-6) are based on the Lancer saloon of the time. Had to be for homologation purposes to Group N and Group A rallying.
If you look at the Proton Persona currently available :( then you'll see it is the same bodyshell as the Evos 1-3 as they are using old Mitsi tooling. A whole bunch of stuff is interchangable. EG some of the GTi's use Evo 1-3 brakes, the engine is a NA version of the 4G63, etc.
The 4-6 had the same shell as the new Lancer. If you look hard on import sites you may find some base Lancers in the Evo4-6 shell for sale. mmm Yum.
The Evo 7 is based on the new Lancer shell for Group N/A rallying. But the New WRC is not based on the Evo 7,but on the new lancer shell with a special kit of parts. Sounds the same as the Evo7, but subtly different in practice and allows mitsi to do stuff to the WRC that is not possible on the standard Evo 7 or Group N or A cars.

TonyC
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
It is, but then they'd have to call it the Cedia Evo 1 :D
So it seems to get called the Lancer everywhere still.

TC
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
I wrote a long reply to this last night but while downloading the listing of current FIA Group A homologated cars my PC locked up :(

The Evo 7 is based on the Lancer Cedia Saloon. The Lancer WRC is based on the Lancer Cedia Saloon however the WRC is not based on the Evo 7.
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
obviously an evo6 is not very close to the wrc evo6 but how close is it to a bog standard 1999/2000 Lancer that your grandpa drives ? I was postulating the idea that the evo is not like an escort cosworth that has a close escort 1.3 ghia family member and have always maintained that evos are not like scoobys in the sense that that there is lower power models like the scooby turbo and amp; RB etc... but maybe im wrong and the the bog standard Lancer is to teh evo what an escort 1.3 was to teh cosworth etc.. ?????
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Rich,
FYI the escort cossie is actually got a longer wheelbase than the standard escort and uses the 4x4 saph floorplan!! not that closely related to a 1.3 ghia ;)

Regards

Umreet
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Rich,
All the Evo's are based on the standard production Lancer shells as you know.
The nearest Lancer to the Evo 6 was 2000cc (in 4WD I think) model. There were also 1300cc, 1500cc, 1600cc, 1800cc V6 (MIVEC) models, the 1500cc and 1800cc being available in 4WD. There was also a turbo model which I assume it was the 2000cc model (I suppose you could call it a Lancer GSR)
They definitely share the interior (apart from the Recaros) and much of the under bonnet components with the main differences probably being the suspension, drivetrain, brakes, engine and turbo. No doubt the standard 2000cc is just a detuned Evo engine. Bodywork wise the wings, bonnet, front spoiler are different with the rear wing also changed (the 'top of the range' bog standard 1999 Lancer had a front spoiler and rear wing much like an E2).

Most of the info above is in my E6 owners manual (but in Japanese hence the vagueness above), the E6 comes with 2 manuals, the bog standard Lancer one (over 200 pages) and a supplement for the Evo (only 18 pages).

1999 Lancer Challenge Cup (just to give an idea of what basically bog standard 1999 Lancers look like)




(well OK race prepared ;))
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Yo Guys, I drive a standard Lancer with some Mods to it. It's Fast enough for me but I hope to own an Evo soon.
 
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