[David Webb]

The + solenoid on my pump (VII) snapped.

Recently I got a pump from a V (for the solenoid) as the pump was very, very cheap. I measured the 2 solenoids and they are both the same dimensions.

I have fitted the solenoid from the V into the pump from the VII but it doesn't go in all the way (see pics).

I don't want to force it or tap it with a hammer, so can anyone tell me if his gap is normal or if there is a method to close the gap.

Thanks

 

[will2]

Surely someone can answer this easily Me Webb :thumbup:
Like those refurbishing pumps on weekly basis on here !

 

[Nad]

Looks like you have a shim on wrong or a piece of broken shim on there.

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=427233&highlight=ayc

 

[David Webb]

Looks like you have a shim on wrong or a piece of broken shim on there.

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=427233&highlight=ayc

Yeah, I have a second shim in at the top to close the gap a little. Without the second shim the main one bends slightly but the solenoid doesn't slide in any further

 

[Nad]

Take the locking tap off and make sure they both seat down all the way, minus the gap for the locking tab. Make sure the o rings aren't unseating when you push it in. They should seat cleanly hence the locking ring to stop them coming out.

If all the cutouts are in the same place I'm not sure why it isn't seating.

 

[David Webb]

When you say the 'locking tap' which part are you referring to?

I have tried to push the solenoid in without the shim etc but it simply won't go any further in! It may be the o-ring stopping it....

 

[David Webb]

On further checking it is the o-ring that's stopping the solenoid from sliding in.

It appears to be a little 'loose'. I presume I can replace the o-ring with a slightly smaller one?

 

[kikiturbo]

On further checking it is the o-ring that's stopping the solenoid from sliding in.

It appears to be a little 'loose'. I presume I can replace the o-ring with a slightly smaller one?

the O ring is 14x1.5 mm.. you can try other dimensions.. or I can send you some..

it would be good if you could compare the snapped part of the solenoid with the VII one you have..
I do not have access to the earlier pumps so can not comment.. but I did replace the E8 and E9 solenoids with ones from E 10... in which case the solenoid had to be turned 180 deg which made it impossible to mount the pump into carrier (due to sticking connector) without some cutting..

it is essential that you test the solenoid on the pump by opening it with pump under pressure... just so that you see it works before mounting it on the car..

 

[David Webb]

Thanks Kiki, I have been round and round in circles with this damn pump

I have compared both solenoids and the appear to be exactly the same (same cutouts etc)

I will post some pics shortly

 

[kikiturbo]

try fitting the solenoid without the o ring..

if you need the orings let me know..

 

[David Webb]

try fitting the solenoid without the o ring..

if you need the orings let me know..

I have fitted it without the 0-ring and it slides all the way in :smthumbup

In the pics I have slid the solenoid all the way in (I know the it needs to be a bit out for the retaining shim )

[the first 2 pics are to show the broken VII solenoid is the same as the good V solenoid]

 

[will2]

Eureka!:thumbup:

 

[David Webb]

Just need to get the proper o-ring now!

 

[kikiturbo]

send me your adress and I will send you some..

 

[David Webb]

send me your adress and I will send you some..

Thanks Kiki, can you PM me the price please :smthumbup

 

[kikiturbo]

just the solenoid O rings???? hell, I'll send them FOC..

 

[Nad]

When you say the 'locking tap' which part are you referring to?

I have tried to push the solenoid in without the shim etc but it simply won't go any further in! It may be the o-ring stopping it....

Locking tab I meant, I didn't really see it as a shim :lol:

On further checking it is the o-ring that's stopping the solenoid from sliding in.

It appears to be a little 'loose'. I presume I can replace the o-ring with a slightly smaller one?

Ah ha, the o ring it was! Glad you got it sorted.

 

[David Webb]

lol, yeah, it was only afterwards that I understood what you meant...

glad it was something simple like the o-ring myself.....

 

[will2]

Another box ticked for "project seven " :smthumbup