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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
1. What is the benefit of going with the 272i/264e set up

2. Why not go 264/264 or272/272

3. Assuming its better to go 264/272 do you need an adjustible cam gear.

4. Are there any idle problems.

I have an evo 6 and i am considering this upgrade so i would appreciate some quality advice from people that have gone this route.
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
264/272 with adjustable verniers,its the timing which is critical if you go this route e-mail me and I will give you the settings.

Barry:)
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
For the standard smaller turbo, there is little benefit in a longer duration exhaust cam as it doesn not generate boost well at high revs.

I have run the 272i 264e for some time, as have other people here. Am about to fit a 272e cam now that I have a larger turbo
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Blade thanks for that,I must tell RC that they are doing it all wrong and should be guided by you,by the way have you sorted out your cam timing yet?
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Blade means there is little benefit in fitting a 272ex if you have a stock turbo.

Dont ask me why, but the 272i/264e combination for a stock turbo seems
to work best, many top tuners ive spoken to dont even know why (!), but it
works.

Only a small loss of bottom end grunt (which can be negated by the
correct cam gear timing, a little more igntion advance lower down and an
HKS SS manifold) and has proven to give a massive 30bhp|PLS| at the top end.
A very slightly lumpy idle, but hardly anything to be concerned about.

Top mod, definitely one for the must do list http://www.lancerregister.com/graphics/Wilk.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| middle >

Justin
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Thanks Yellow5, that is exactly what I meant. You can fit a 272e if you want to, but for small gain it will give you, you will get a very lumpy idle - like RC's car which sounds like it is missing a piston as it is so lumpy.
 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Thanks every one for the good advice,especially Yellow 5.
Blade i an not sure if your suggesting there is no real benefit from using the stock cams or going from 264 to 272 with the stock turbo. Could you clarify this for me .Thanks
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
The widely accepted best practice for stock turbo is 272i 264e cams. You will see around 20bhp improvement, more with a manifold.
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Hi Blade,

Thanks for the infomation on the 272/264 set up. Will i need adjustible cam gears or will they slot into pre-set positions. Thanks
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Larry its as I said,though I can understand why you was getting confused.Blade confused me.

272/264 and if you want the correct cam timing to get the maximum gain E-Mail me.You will get a lumpy tickover but it is steady.

You could also ask MC Custard,according to PE his is the most powerfull Evo they have had on their Rolling Road,to date he has nearly 400bhp and runs on standard internals like you,he is a very knowledgeable guy and very helpfull and runs the cams you are interested in.

Hope that helps Barry:)
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Larry, I am sorry that Wazzuptommi keeps on doing this interjection. He doesn't like me, so has to follow around all my posts and stick his nose in.

Get the cam wheels too. Cam timing will vary depending on other mods, but the most successful person with regards to timing is MC Custard - far more than any of the so called tuners.
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Wazup,

In your first post you said 264/272 and in your second you said 272/264, now THAT is confusing;), which combination do RC recommend?
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Thanks, Wazzuptommi and Blade.

Blade your advice is exactly what i wanted to know,which is the timing will have to be adjusted depending on mods done. I will definetly go with a 264/264 setting as this dos,nt require adjusted timing because i dont have access to a rolling road in Jamaica and setting the timing will just be a guessing game.

I know i wont be maxmising the cars potential but i will definetly have peace of mind not having to go back and fort to the mechanic re-setting timing all the time.

Thanks everyone for your quality advice
 
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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
i was advised by clive at R.C. devs,to return my 264 inlet and exchange it for a 272
i do not regret taking his advice.
BUT,fitting without dialling in ,or without the hks valve springs....is pointless.
 
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Discussion Starter · #15 ·
Thanks MC Custard.

I was Getting the cam springs as well but as you mentioned dialling them in with out a rolling road will be a guessing game.

Kindly Advise
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
Blade,you are starting to get the hang of this now,Quote more successfull than so called tuners you have the ability to be petty,Excellent..keep it up..you will be as good as Simon soon.

By the way how am I following you around when on this post I made the first reply,I would suggest you think before you speak,and stop following me around!

Maybe you would like to end this thread for the benefit of modem users too.
Just post a reply to this then hit the moderator button,its easy, you know how, you have done it before.
And then once more you can have the last word.

There is a saying in life which I love,you can do what ever you like as long as you are prepared to accept the consequences............:D
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
Oh, and incidentally Barry my praise for Custard was genuine, and the reference to tuners included all of them, PE as well.
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
Blade I saw your speech in Blah Blah,and as predicted you closed the thread.

So I will have to reply here.

I am very sorry for any comments I made to you that upset you and I promise I wont do it again.

Simon,I am also very sorry for any comments of mine that offended you,and I also promise I wont do it again.

I also promise not to criticise any tuners on this forum,or any of its members,and I humbly ask for your forgiveness,and I will try to live up to the high standards that have been set by the moderators,and show respect to the commitee.

I in future will only post in the technical section,under brakes(I like brakes)and I will change my name to Angel Eyes,once again this is a sincere apology,and I ask anyone I have offended to accept it:):):)
 
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