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Old 15-12-2017, 00:25   #1
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Traders not publicly giving prices

Just a general query/rant, why do traders rarely give prices on a public forum? And I don't just mean the MLR, social media in general.
I've found it difficult to get ballpark figures for getting the underside of my TME restored and I'm also trying to get my T4 ready for an MOT. I've seen people have similar jobs done and nobody will say what was paid.
I know full well that every job is different but I'm not asking for a quote, just an idea.
What gives?
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Old 15-12-2017, 10:16   #2
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For something like an underside restore there isn't a set price. One car could take a day but another could take 3 weeks. No one is going to give you a price for that without seeing it.
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Old 15-12-2017, 10:17   #3
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Or 4 Year’s like mine

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For something like an underside restore there isn't a set price. One car could take a day but another could take 3 weeks. No one is going to give you a price for that without seeing it.
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Old 15-12-2017, 10:31   #4
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We used to but then found when people are googling or just searching on forum they could sometimes pull up an old price without looking at date on post etc, then get upset when i couldnt match a 10year old quote!... as others have said you will never get a fixed priced on something like an underside restore as too many variables.

I think problem is people expect to find eveything in the world online these days due to the lazy society thats developing!...pick up phone, email or even better visit trader on something like a restoration job.

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Old 15-12-2017, 11:55   #5
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Ref car sales and Social Media.

I get asked this on FB and IG frequently and I point them to our sales platforms where the prices are displayed. The trouble with social media is if you want to update the price it's a lot of legwork to go back and edit every post. I feel it's better to have prices displayed on a more central platform such as Trader, Pistonheads, Ebay Motors etc

Regarding the underside treatment, as MadMac says, every car is different and is very much POA.
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Old 15-12-2017, 14:34   #6
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the problem is what do you want doing for an underside resto

as i can tell you mine just in bolts was over 1k let alone clips, pipes grommits, bushes powdercoating bearings sensors etc etc, then the labour of stripping it all back to metal rust treating repairing, painting materials etc but i done it all myself so labour wasnt an issue, but depends on labour charges too avegare 45 an hour, probably in total of 8 to 10 hours to fully strip the underside maybe more, then to to start restoring it

you have to think of exactly what you want first in an underside resto and how far you want to take it, then budget for replacement items too

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The most recent chassis rail replacement job we did the customer wanted to go further with certain bits and pieces and it ended up at around 55 hours @ £59ph + vat.

As Richy says, it's totlly subjective to the owners requirements.
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Old 15-12-2017, 16:39   #8
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And the most depressing thing about such investments is...it's metal so eventually it'll just rust again lol.

Totally agree with the above response, though. If the customer requirements differ then the price is totally subjective. That's what picking up the phone is for.

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Old 15-12-2017, 20:31   #9
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the way i see it is ,folk need to get of there backsides and find out for themselves ,people wont go chasing you ,ring some ,go visit them ,speak face to face ,no one will quote ,even ISH price wise ,on an ask on a forum

im sure very many folk will tell you who did the job ,but asking what they payed is often a dirty word ,what may be cheap to one may be a down right con to another
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Old 15-12-2017, 21:32   #10
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I find people seem to charge a lot of money for fairly straight forward jobs but..... and its a big but when you unbolt all the back end of sometimes they are 5 times worse than you think , been there years ago in the mini years . one little hole turns into two rear floor new sub frame and sub frame mounts .
The thing that has surprised me is how much new rear chassis legs are , one would think they are made from titanium rather than £10 of pressed steel .
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Old 15-12-2017, 23:28   #11
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I get with a job like restoration that there is so many variables so giving a price is hard until they have seen it. But i have seen in the past some traders selling goods or products and saying pm for a price. Then loads of people underneath saying ive pm'd you etc and they get a pm back with a price. But why not put a price up in that instance, is it because there regular customers get a better price than others? I suspect this is the case and whenever I see that I make a point of not using that trader as it puts me off them.

So any traders that do that, you might make a bit more by selling a few units at a higher price but are you really as how many sales do you loose by not being open.

Just my opinion but it's not how I run my business the price to one person is the same to the next.
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Old 16-12-2017, 06:56   #12
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If its an engine build you can more or less price is up with maybe a little difference along the way, but youbcan price a worse case.

Resto work, ive got an evo 7 to do inc engine rebuild. The engine side is easy too price. The rest not so as whole bay needs stripping And taking back too metal and treating. But ive said 15ph plus materials purely because if i had too charge too solely concentrate on it, he would be looking at 40/50ph but isnt in a rush so i can fit it in between other jobs.
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