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Old 28-08-2019, 18:33   #16
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The above is an extract from one of your earlier posts.

I guess that why the X RS has ABS pump unit even operationally the ABS is deactivated ie as a way to supply brake pressure info to the ACD controller.

I know you aren't really interested in producing a package to suit an AYC equipped track car, but out of interest do you know what else is needed ie over and above what's needed for ACD operation - perhaps wheel speed info?
I would need to check but I'm sure wheel speed will be taken into account for ACD. Generally speaking for any car with active controls in the drive/brake area need wheel speed, G-force, steering angle, throttle position and brake pressure or switch.

To be fair I'm only putting the pieces of the jigsaw together and the electronics engineering will calibrate accordingly so my outcome might be applicable to a AYC equipped car but it also may not.

Based on the electronics package in my car I have the ability for advanced controls for things like this over a track day car with a stand alone ECU so we will need to see what's possible as we continue this thread. It may not work on someone elses setup but I sure hope it does. Hell it may not work on mine but I'm willing to give it a try. Worst case it's my car and my time wasted and not the end of the world.

I encourage you to Google the setup as there is more to see that what's linked above.
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Old 28-08-2019, 18:38   #17
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The channels from the Mk60E5 are:
4 wheel speeds (CAN)
4 wheel speeds (digital output)
4 brake pressures
master brake pressure
ABS alarm warning (CAN)
ABS alarm warning (analog output)
abs active
yaw rate
g force lat
g force long

The Mk60 channels are:
4 wheel speeds (CAN)
4 wheel speeds (digital output)
4 brake pressures
ABS alarm warning (CAN)
ABS alarm warning (analog output)
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Old 29-08-2019, 00:12   #18
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Thanks for your question.

With regards to balance, if you wanted control over it, it would be the same as the BOSCH system. As in, you add a balance bar setup with a pedal box.

I was thinking of retaining the OE like brake ballance control trough the ABS system...

As for the ACD/AYC system... for ACD to work, you really need the raw ABS sensor signal from each wheel... so keeping the OE sensors and rings would be a plus..
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The above is an extract from one of your earlier posts.

I guess that's why the X RS has ABS pump unit even though operationally the ABS is deactivated ie as a way to supply brake pressure info to the ACD controller.

I know you aren't really interested in producing a package to suit an AYC equipped track car, but out of interest do you know what else is needed ie over and above what's needed for ACD operation - perhaps wheel speed info?
for ACD and AYC you need the same inputs... Steering wheel angle, handbrake switch, each individual ABS sensor, lateral and longitudinal G... probably brake pedal switch too but i dont remember anymore..
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Thanks for your input.

The MK60 ABS sensors will need to be used and are not the same as the OEM Mitsubishi. Wheel speed will be monitored at all 4 wheel of course so there I'm confident ACD will work.
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Old 30-09-2019, 13:01   #21
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Update to this thread.

Although this is still a potential option for any track or race car it appears that the people that offer the motorsport calibration for the system don't reply to emails. I've been dealing with one half of the operation but the other half is the person who carries out the work but just does not update me with any information and replies to questions. Initial questions were asked weeks before this post and I keep being told it's being looked into with no real replies so I cannot work with people like this.

Game over unfortunately
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That's a great shame as I would be very interested in a suitable cheaper alternative to the Bosch system.
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