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Old 23-03-2019, 09:15   #1
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Need advice for new disc - pad combo (E9)

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I am a happy owner of an evo 9, using it every day but also approx every two months on a track. My brake setup is the stock one with ferrodo ds2500 pads. I am happy with the everyday performance, but not so happy on the track, where they occasionally overheat. As the disks and the pads need replacement, I am thinking of buying something different than oem parts (maybe two part disks?) and maybe other pads than ds 2500. Please keep in mind that I want to keep the stock caliper and the stock 17" wheels. I have no problems with squeeks and noises during braking.

Thanks a lot for any input / suggestions!
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Old 23-03-2019, 09:41   #2
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I'm afraid your overheating issue is most likely to be down to the Brembo calipers rather than disc pad combination. Adding some addition brakes cooling could be one solution, but it also somewhat depends on your particular driving style ie some people are much harder on their brakes than others.

Someone with huge experience helping Evo owners to sort out their braking issues is thetytant (aka Ian at Carbotech). Give him a call on 01768 885000 or send him a PM - or he might well pick up on this thread and reply here.

My best advice to you would be to keep a lookout for a set of the AP calipers and discs. The 332mm x 32mm CP5555 setup will fitted under most 17" wheels and they will deal with the heat much better than the Brembos.
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A better disc and pad combo will be fine with the Brembos. Lines and fluid upgrade along with extra cooling would help too.
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A better disc and pad combo will be fine with the Brembos. Lines and fluid upgrade along with extra cooling would help too.
It's all very well saying that, but you hardly bother using the brakes anyway
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DS2500 arnt a good pad, i found them really wooden ,and not good at all ,i use DS3000s now ,while they can be noisy there in another league to DS2500

but if you still using the servo id be looking at CARBOTECH XP10s when i ran my car on them with a servo they where REALLY good
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Old 25-03-2019, 21:46   #6
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Thank you all very much for the input !

Carbotech XP10 is a pad I have read lots of good things about, so it is definitely a strong candidate.

Could you please make a suggestion about a disk? One part or two part disk (I was thinking two part actually)? Which one?

My experience is quite limited and maybe I ll have to make a decision quite fast, so your input is valuable !
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i used GODSPEED 2 peice discs ,brilliant value for money

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Over the years the "money no object" choice of two-piece disc has always been the Performance Friction product.

https://www.rosssport.com/Brands/PER...embly-Evo-V-IX
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Over the years the "money no object" choice of two-piece disc has always been the Performance Friction product.
..which is not that much more expensive than other two piece discs..
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Good track suitable pads like Pagid RS or Carbotech XP range (not ds2500 they are fastroad pads) along with decent brake fluid are your good to go

Disc wise most 1 piece are pretty much the same so just go with what you prefer and with good pads will be fine, if budget allows PF 2piece are the daddy as far as im concerned but wont give a huge performance increase just some weight saving and better cooling durability, I wouldn't bother with most of the cheaper 2 piece options they are usually heavy and have straight internal vanes so worse cooling performance than PF and no real benefit over 1 piece other than looking fancy

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I used PF 2 peace discs and DS3000's on my RS and never had any issues at all on track and I'm a major late/hard brake'r'
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XP8's may be a better option over the 10's if mostly road work with occasional track
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Thanks for all your input!

Could you please comment about the dilemma: ds3000 or xp8/10?
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Thanks for all your input!

Could you please comment about the dilemma: ds3000 or xp8/10?
Ds3000 is reasonable track pad but some find modulation a bit on/off as its quite a grabby pad but works for some people, not a very friendly pad if car goes on road also though, XP8 is a fastroad/trackday pad and great allrounder i find, it is potentially noisy/dusty though, XP10 is more circuit orientated pad but still flexible enough to use on road so works well for big power fastroad/trackday cars.

Tyres also play a part as they are the limiting factor in many cases, no point having a very powerful pad if the tyres dont allow you to use it, with ds3000 or xp10 you must run a premium tyre, preferably semislick or at very least something like Yokohama AD08R etc, other wise you wont be able to use all the pads performance.
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