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#1 ·
who's going to watch?
 
#211 ·
One question was about homosexuality being part of sex education in schools.
There was a privately held referendum in Scotland organised and paid for by businessman Brian Souter.

The result, polling over a million votes was 85% being opposed to the changes.

That is quite a majority but no-one in power paid any attention.
So when this same subject was brought up Nick Griffin said "the sight of two grown men kissing in public really creepy".
He was quickly barracked and jeered with chants of "rubbish". Well I don't think your average man on the street thinks this.

The audience was full of the PC brigade, liberals and lesbians.
If he had said this, and his line about criminals and illegal immigrants being deported at 3pm at any football match
in the country he would get an ovation.
 
#213 ·
In all fairness the BNP were well and truly stitched up IMO, instead of actually focusing on how bad the current government is, most of the panel just attempted to seize the day by shifting the entire programme around Nick Griffin being there.

IMO The tory government we last had, and the current labour dossers are far worse for moulding what this country has become, ie; Maggie ripping the heart out of communities on her crusade against the miners in the 80's, and Labour allowing every tom, dick and Harry, or should I say, Imran, Mohammed and Mr Malik through the ***** door without thinking about the knock on effect, open door immigration would have.

All these past balls up's were nicely swerved as they united to rip into someone who I suppose has the balls to stand up and say what *he* believes in.....that audience look handpicked if Ive ever seen one too, as mentioned, go to many working class area's/towns and you would and will find a very different opinion......its also plain to see that most of the audience are major hypocrits, they clearly believe everything they read in the papaers, as most do when they form their opions on the BNP.

It seems slating the BNP is flavour of the month, every political flyer Ive had thru my door for the elections are harping on about how **** scared everyone is of the BNP gaining more seats, when in reality they see it as a meal ticket to win back support by going on about how evil they are.
 
#214 ·
It seems slating the BNP is flavour of the month, every political flyer Ive had thru my door for the elections are harping on about how **** scared everyone is of the BNP gaining more seats, when in reality they see it as a meal ticket to win back support by going on about how evil they are.
The three main parties are scared of them because they know full well that they have some very powerful views and will appeal to many folk who are fed up with the crap they see going on around them and who see the BNP as an opportunity for real change. They could be spouting the vilest views in the world (see the National Front) but the main parties would not give a toss if they did not see them as a threat. The fact that they care so much is an indicator as to just how much support they can potentially have.

On the subject of support it seems that - despite everyone's efforts - the BNP have actually emerged victorious after last night. Their membership has shot up to its highest ever level. If you go on to the website's of left wing government financed rags like the Sun or the Mirror, most of the people posting on their website are either supporting the BNP or have sympathy for them, inspite of the papers all proclaiming on their front pages today that Griffin is vile and inhumane. Nice to see that many people's views are not based on 'The Sun says' column and the media are being largely ignored, despite their best efforts.
 
#216 ·
modern political sytems are outdated and self serving anyway. There based on stuff thats no longer relevant. Worlds changed a lot in the last decade. Cant wait to see who the kids of today vote in.
 
#219 ·
I think it a very good thing that the leader of the BNP was allowed on Question Time, like it or not.

The political parties in this country need a radical shake up which has been long overdue! In recent times, if you're some kind of minority you seem to be gifted a golden ticket by the powers that be, the reason why, who knows?

I don't care what colour your skin is, just as long as I'm treated the same as you then I don't see any problem, it's not the case though, thats why there's been such a rise in the vote for the BNP, being a white male as I am, I'm tarnished with the brush as such, if I was of different ethnicity than what I am then I'd be given preferential treatment, which is damed right disgraceful! I'm talking positive discrimination here, its rife thorough out this country.

Did anyone see the news recently where a handful of people of black origin wanted to join the BNP? Also, I was talking to a very good friend of mine today who happens to be black whom agreed with a lot of what Mr. Griffin said, some points that the BNP leader brought up were quite valid, one of them being we've not got enough room for more people in this country, we're a tiny country and need *very* strict limits on who is coming into this country, 71 million people in the country apparently, Labour would be happy to have the flood gates open and turn the place into a concrete jungle, no more green fields of England if that were the case.

I know of one person that goes to church, everyone else that I can think of finds the thought of religion pointless, we've outgrown it, thats not the case with many people indoctrinated by the Muslim religion, in my eyes its a very basic fire and brimstone kind of ideal with some mystical floaty around type omni present being doing their thing :confused: I feel that the Muslim faith to be a very dangerous faith, its just as dangerous as the Christian faith was at the height of its power, parallels can easily be drawn between the two.

As we're all well aware, the followers of the dogma that is Islam is one of hatred, intolerance, indoctrination, with extremism as the cherry on the top, central to that indoctrination is the need to convert all non believers to Islam, once again, draw a similar parallel that of Christianity, there is no place for Islam to be practiced in this country, its a powder keg waiting to go off, consign it to where it should go, room 101, the same goes for Christianity.

We as humans will never have any kind of long lasting peace whilst dogmatic religion is still in and around our lives, there really is no place for it be it India, China, England, where ever you can cast your minds eye to.

Something that Mr. Griffin pointed out was that this is a Christian country, no, no it isn't this country had Christianity forced upon it by the invading Romans, this country was before the Romans came here was a Pagan country, the people that practiced it worshiped the earth, sun and moon, the Romans took it upon themselves to place their places of Christian worship upon ancient Pagan sites and demolished what had been before them after their arrival here.
 
#222 ·
Very well said, I agree too, as said by the BNP they haven't a problem with other cultures which came into the country a while back and are established and live here and get the same benefits as we do, its the last few years of every man and his dog getting in !! we visited Oxford a few months ago and were shocked how many polish people there was there:rotz:

My eldest who's 27 been unemployed 12 months ago tried to apply for accommodation, was told he would have to stay with the samaritans indefinately until they could source accommodation, oh and he owed 120.00 to the poll tax and was given a court summons to either pay or go to hm service to pay it off..... yeah what about a whole community in the news recently who got off with it ... through being racist huh.
 
#220 ·
I thought it was a total waste of time and it needs to be done again, that was 1 hour of Griffin bashing now lets have question time.

It was funny when the black guy in the front row said to Jack Straw that he was amazed that the labour party still panders to the left about immigration while ignoring the issue, it was funny to watch him say anything he could to avoid answering the question.
 
#221 ·
Just to underline my points.........

We as a nation all need to be treated fairly and on a level playing field, be you black, white, chinese, Indian, Pakistani, American, etc, etc, we need an end to this special treatment of certain ethnic minorities, we're all human beings.

I think that the rise in popularity of the BNP is a reaction to what has been going on of late, thats obvious, the marginalization of the many for the few is the *real* reality here, until there is a balance struck we'll see the likes of parties like the BNP for some time to come.

I don't agree with a lot of what the leader of the BNP has to pedal, most of it is just ridiculous and in most cases inflammatory just for the sake of being such.
 
#223 ·
**** it.. the country is ****ed who gives a flying **** if the bnp gets voted in.
tories have ****ed us over with poll tax.. which they tested out on scotland.
dont get me started on labour.the way i see it some of his views are mucked up,but at least hes got the balls to stand up to the bull**** pc brigade thats sweeping our land:goingmad:
 
#225 ·
the truth hurts and alot of people dont like it, nice set up up by the bbc, all i saw last night was a bloke standing up for the english people and his heritage and culture and because no one could offer a decent argument about imigration the racist card was slung.

it will only get worse weather you like it or not untill something gives way, either something is done about the ammount of people in this country or there will be civil unrest when it reaches breaking point.
 
#227 ·
civil unrest is upon us now,hopefully more people will realise this and stop taking it from behind. nobody used to **** about with this nation years ago,infact we were feared.
now look at the state of us.. we have no money,we owe heaps,every man and his dog are moving over here to be looked after,we have people collecting there brew money for year after year.(have you found a job yet?..no,but today i looked in the local rag for a job and there wasnt anything....oh well heres your cheque,thanks for trying,hope your feelings werent hurt by a knock back. btw we are organising a goverment funded anti depressing get back to work scheme... **** OFF!!!GO AND CLEAN THE STREETS...COME BACK IN 2 WEEKS AND I BET YOU FOUND A JOB YOU LAZY ****ER.
 
#232 ·
Here's an interesting one.

Clarkson is on top gear now. He's just been taking the P out of Australians by coming up with lots of sterotypes and a silly accent.

Ask yourself this. Is it wrong or is it just humour?

Now, if he had done the same thing but in Urdu, would he still be working for the BBC tomorrow?

No...but why? I want to know...serious question.:)
 
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#241 ·
dont start me off.........very interesting read just like to add
there was only one man on that panel that has shared a platform with mass murderer at leased 1 million and counting to his name and shook his hand and no its not......................................nick griffin :goingmad:
 
#249 ·
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Well personal abuse has been rife for years. Xenophobia on the other hand heavily moderated. A sign of the times perhaps i.e. ethnic races with a lot more rights than anyone else.

e.g. there are even special laws now for black people being stabbed. You get a longer sentence if its racially motivated. Stab a white bloke and its just one of those things. To me both crimes would carry equal penalties.
 
#277 · (Edited)
Originally Posted by Turbo_Dan
Well personal abuse has been rife for years. Xenophobia on the other hand heavily moderated. A sign of the times perhaps i.e. ethnic races with a lot more rights than anyone else.

e.g. there are even special laws now for black people being stabbed. You get a longer sentence if its racially motivated. Stab a white bloke and its just one of those things. To me both crimes would carry equal penalties.
If you look at cases, e.g. the girls aloud member who attacked a "black" bog attendent the main issue was whether it was a racial attack. She was cleared of that attack but convicted of the lesser common assault. My opinion is a slap in the face is a slap in the face, so what difference does the motivation make?

i.e. hitting someone for being fat isnt as bad as hitting someone for being black. Or it probably is now actually with all these new discrimination laws coming in.

Why are you ashamed to be born British? Just because I dont agree with someone elses point of view I dont become ashamed of my heritage. Utter melodrama.
 
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