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Old 02-11-2016, 15:12   #16
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No - totally wrong - im not saying that at all - read my post clearly and slowly
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it is totally differant to a hpi in the uk - its one mans decision to what many 10-25 year old vehicles are graded at.

You see the same cars go through auctions one week graded a 3.5 then asame car put into differant auction graded a R.

THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULDNT JUMP TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT SPENDING SOME SERIOUS TIME IN JAPAN - THATS ALL IM SAYING
Thanks Barry, this is exactly what I'm saying. Too many people with a hidden agenda or have the feeling they've been ripped off without fully understanding the grading system.
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Old 02-11-2016, 15:17   #18
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it makes no difference to me so I have no agenda,

its not my car and I wasnt looking to buy it, I have not named the seller or the car either

my point was the owner didnt know and was told differently, if that was me then I would not be happy so the check is worth doing prior to buying

no idea why its got a rod up your back

now you know of this check would you buy an import without doing one ?

some people are paying 20-50k for these cars and its no different to running a UK HPI on a UK car, I wouldnt buy a UK car without a HPI check, as we know they do not show up all repairs etc but its just part of the buying process

I am not for one minute saying get hung up on the grade of a car
Your is what is known as a "pin puller". A few of your pals G you up to put up a thread regarding a car you know little about. You then smash the keyboard buttons 'pull the pin out of the hand grenade' then sit back and watch the party.

I have no rod up my back what I have is respect for people and temperament which allows me to try and understand all aspects before posting.
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I am not talking about the grading system,

On the top of the check it shows the car in question as being damage reported, can someone in the know explain where that comes from please


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Your is what is known as a "pin puller". A few of your pals G you up to put up a thread regarding a car you know little about. You then smash the keyboard buttons 'pull the pin out of the hand grenade' then sit back and watch the party.

I have no rod up my back what I have is respect for people and temperament which allows me to try and understand all aspects before posting.
nope I am actually trying to be helpful

its seeming more obvious you know the car in question so have an aganda ?

Would you not advise a friend or forum member to carry out a check before spending ££££ on an import car ?

Would you use the service yourself if you had been offered a fresh import with no data sheet ?

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nope I am actually trying to be helpful

its seeming more obvious you know the car in question so have an aganda ?

Would you not advise a friend or forum member to carry out a check before spending ££££ on an import car ?

Would you use the service yourself if you had been offered a fresh import with no data sheet ?
I'd also appreciate not being trolled on Facebook too mate.
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I am not talking about the grading system,

On the top of the check it shows the car in question as being damage reported, can someone in the know explain where that comes from please

In the case of my car that happened during the grading process as they picked up on a panel replacement. It's been marked as a collision but the interpretation really is as fuzzy as the grading system itself.

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Please give your view of a Grade R car??? - if it has had a wing replaced and a bonnet because someone has dropped something on it , or the large hail stones hit it , its likely to be graded down - yes

That is exactly the same as brand new cars here in the uk - hundreds get painted before they have even reached the owners from new .... let alone at 16 years old.

Me personally think you are mis representing the gradeing system in japan and do not fully understand it - Its literally one mans view when they go through auction and a guide.

Grade R covers many many aspects of the car. I have seen grade R with hardly any defects on the auction sheet, and grade 4 with replaced panels!

I agree entirely its not clear cut, but at the end of the day if an auction grader deems the car to be grade R from that point it will always be grade R and it will always carry that stigma about it.
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In truth, I think there is a show of respect that Andy hasn't posted car details, trader or seller in question.

Most cars would of had something repaired at one stage, if that was before or after import after all they are pretty damn old now.

Not sure the grading system would put me off a particular car but it isn't good if seller was told lies or the truth was bent slightly. But then again how many dodgey importers are about now!

Potentially a minefield that's why I think it's good that such information is now easily found for potential buyers.
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In truth, I think there is a show of respect that Andy hasn't posted car details, trader or seller in question.

Most cars would of had something repaired at one stage, if that was before or after import after all they are pretty damn old now.

Not sure the grading system would put me off a particular car but it isn't good if seller was told lies or the truth was bent slightly. But then again how many dodgey importers are about now!

Potentially a minefield that's why I think it's good that such information is now easily found for potential buyers.
Very realistic answer about right in my opinion
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I will use this as a prime example from yesterday/ last week.This is one of hundreds and thousands...... This is why i say - take your auctions grades with a pinch of salt and dont get tied up in it too much. One man (auction worker) decideing lol

Look at the car your buying instead of sat behind a key board or trying to buy off the internet ....the way of the world now whether we like it or not but thats not good enough , people need to be buying with their own eyes or paying people with experience....just like we do in japan, who you can trust and rely on.
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I will use this as a prime example from yesterday/ last week.This is one of hundreds and thousands...... This is why i say - take your auctions grades with a pinch of salt and dont get tied up in it too much. One man (auction worker) decideing lol

Look at the car your buying instead of sat behind a key board or trying to buy off the internet ....the way of the world now whether we like it or not but thats not good enough , people need to be buying with their own eyes or paying people with experience....just like we do in japan, who you can trust and rely on.
👍👍👍. Exactly mate.
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Surely a person/s grading on a daily basis has more knowledge than a trader trying to disprove a system sat behind a keyboard and trying to sell over the Internet?
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Surely a person/s grading on a daily basis has more knowledge than a trader trying to disprove a system sat behind a keyboard and trying to sell over the Internet?
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Thats a ridiculous comment, Im not trying to disprove any system - im saying its a guide and giving you an example of what goes on daily and as im in the know with 20 years experience and imported 1000's of vehicles, spent many weeks / months in japan (my job 6 days per week). Whether their uk cars or imported i know by looking at a car whether parts have been replaced/painted /factory etc etc .
Im also encouraging people to actually view cars instead of people like your self scooting round forums and face book thinking they know everything.

i was going to do a large write up on this subject to try and make you understand what actually happens , but its pointless totally pointless as what ever you try and say and tell the facts you cant tell people "who think they know"... its impossible on a place like this, not all by any means but some have totally no idea. Might seem harsh but true!

Hope that answers your question
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Barrie, you may have been importing cars for 20 years, but your grammar is shocking

Ever heard of ' and there and their?? Glad you're selling cars and not in a class room

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