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Old 22-03-2017, 17:35   #31
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What would you folks recommend for daily use with occasional track use? Currently have stock discs with redstuff (yes I know, came fitted with the car) pads.

PF Z rated all round or XP8? Will either of them squeak like most uprated pads seem to?
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What would you folks recommend for daily use with occasional track use? Currently have stock discs with redstuff (yes I know, came fitted with the car) pads.

PF Z rated all round or XP8? Will either of them squeak like most uprated pads seem to?
If noise is a concern the PF Z rated are better choice, they are a road based pad and should be fairly quiet if everything else is good, they can take light track use also,
Our XP8 is a competition type material so much stronger performance on road and track but can squeal with gentle use and are quite dusty, all depends what you can live with i guess.

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If noise is a concern the PF Z rated are better choice, they are a road based pad and should be fairly quiet if everything else is good, they can take light track use also,
Our XP8 is a competition type material so much stronger performance on road and track but can squeal with gentle use and are quite dusty, all depends what you can live with i guess.

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I can live with a bit of noise and dust. Would you reccomend XP8s all round or 10 on the front and 8 on the rear? The car does see some fast road use as well from time to time.
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Old 22-03-2017, 20:14   #34
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in my experience, 10 is less noisy and works better overall.. I was using them all round..
but with any noisy XP pad, it comes down to the usage cycle.. lots of slow city traffic and they will be noisy..
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I've used a load of different fast road/light track pads over the years.

I've currently settled on having 2 sets of pads: one for everyday road use (daily driver Evo IX with OE Brembos); and one set for the occasional track day.

I've settled on Project Mu HC800+ pads for daily use and Carbon Lorraine CL6 (I think) for track. Really easy to change them over myself.

The Mu pads are a great compromise. Best biting pad I've found for my own driving style without squeal and less dust than the CLs and XP8s I've used in the past.

Forget Blue NDX and Orange Stuff. They're good, but not as good as a fast road Evo deserves. The Mu pads are also reasonably priced for the level of performance and OK to use in UK winter.

The CL pads are amazing on track for a full weight Evo. Totally fade free for me during hot midsummer day use over 6 plus continuous hard laps of Cadwell. On a similar par to XP8s. Perhaps even subjectively slughtly better... Similar dust levels. Similar squeal on road duties even with Ceratec and shims.

I'm also using MTech grooved one piece discs all round without complaint. Used Godspeed plain one piece discs before as well and theses discs are also recommended.

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Old 12-04-2017, 23:01   #36
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Went with XP8 all round. A big thanks to Ian for the advice. Had them fitted today and just been out to bed them in. Discs were skimmed beforehand and went for fresh fluid along with ceratec paste.

Initial impressions are very good. Huge difference between these and the old Redstuff pads. Will probably go on another bedding in run tomorrow.
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Thought I'd follow up with my review on the XP8 pads. They have been superb since day one. Brilliant stopping power and the noise isn't as bad as I feared when using the car to commute. Well worth the money!
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Old 08-06-2017, 23:28   #38
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Not posted for awhile but thought I would update with my choice of brake setup !
Gone with Godspeed g hook discs all round (single piece)
Rcl 5+ pads

Ordered them Tuesday evening 6/6/17 got them today excellent service from Ian at Godspeed and can't wait to try them out once bedded in !

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Old 23-12-2019, 11:23   #39
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Hi guys!

I've been using the following setup on my X SST for the past year:
-Front: PFC v3 disks with XP10s
-Rear: standard disks with DS2500 (waiting for them to finish to replace them)
-Goodridge steel brake lines + RBF600 fluid

I must say I love the bite of the XP10s in any condition however I'm a bit concerned on disk fade as it seems that my disk have faded by appx 1mm and 3000km.

So I'm starting to think to have them replaced as I'm concerned on disk fade but I want same/similar bite.

Although I was planning on tracking my X, I won't (as I'm back into karting) so I want a pad that will have the same bite as the XP10, give me the same confidence on fast mountain driving.

I don't daily my X but I do drive it fast.

So I'm looking into replacing front and rear pads and I've narrowed it down into two options:
1. Z-rated PFCs all around
2. XP8s all around

What is your opinion and will the above be similar to the XP10s?
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Old 23-12-2019, 18:07   #40
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Hi guys!

I've been using the following setup on my X SST for the past year:
-Front: PFC v3 disks with XP10s
-Rear: standard disks with DS2500 (waiting for them to finish to replace them)
-Goodridge steel brake lines + RBF600 fluid

I must say I love the bite of the XP10s in any condition however I'm a bit concerned on disk fade as it seems that my disk have faded by appx 1mm and 3000km.

So I'm starting to think to have them replaced as I'm concerned on disk fade but I want same/similar bite.

Although I was planning on tracking my X, I won't (as I'm back into karting) so I want a pad that will have the same bite as the XP10, give me the same confidence on fast mountain driving.

I don't daily my X but I do drive it fast.

So I'm looking into replacing front and rear pads and I've narrowed it down into two options:
1. Z-rated PFCs all around
2. XP8s all around

What is your opinion and will the above be similar to the XP10s?
mixing pad compounds it never a good idea in my eyes, i found XP10s great pads all round, thay worked well ,and coped well with the hard work they got on the rally car
DS2500 i found utterly hopeless and lacked in all kind of ways ,even as a road car pad i wouldnt go there again thats for sure ,after i went servo less on the rally car i found DS3000 a superb pad that took no end of grief and still performed even when pushed very hard
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I feel my rotors will finish sooner than my pads so I'm thinking of going to less aggressive pads.

How do xp8 and z rated compare to xp10s?

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ive no experiance with PFC stuff ,sorry ,but 8s to 10s are allot differant, youd do a decent track day on 10s but i wouldnt expect more than a few hot laps on 8s
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ive no experiance with PFC stuff ,sorry ,but 8s to 10s are allot differant, youd do a decent track day on 10s but i wouldnt expect more than a few hot laps on 8s
How do 8s behave on the road (fast mountain drive for example) and how's their bite vs 10?

I don't track the evo anymore.

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Hi guys!

I've been using the following setup on my X SST for the past year:
-Front: PFC v3 disks with XP10s
-Rear: standard disks with DS2500 (waiting for them to finish to replace them)
-Goodridge steel brake lines + RBF600 fluid

I must say I love the bite of the XP10s in any condition however I'm a bit concerned on disk fade as it seems that my disk have faded by appx 1mm and 3000km.

So I'm starting to think to have them replaced as I'm concerned on disk fade but I want same/similar bite.

Although I was planning on tracking my X, I won't (as I'm back into karting) so I want a pad that will have the same bite as the XP10, give me the same confidence on fast mountain driving.

I don't daily my X but I do drive it fast.

So I'm looking into replacing front and rear pads and I've narrowed it down into two options:
1. Z-rated PFCs all around
2. XP8s all around

What is your opinion and will the above be similar to the XP10s?

That's sounds like unusually high disc wear, with XP10 i normally expect to see 3-4 sets of pads to a set of rotors so yours sounds excessive, why i don't know but i would keep a close eye on the rotors, what sort of mileage have you done and any track use ?

XP8 offers a similar feel to the Xp10 just not as strong when really pushing on and during track use, for fastroad XP8 is generally a better choice and also a little easier on rotors as well so i think maybe a good option for you.

Z-Rated PFC is a average fast road pad with decent enough road manners (lower dust/noise et) and will stop car ok but wont give the nice sharp feel you get with XP pads as they are competition pads so not fair to compare PF Z with them.

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That's sounds like unusually high disc wear, with XP10 i normally expect to see 3-4 sets of pads to a set of rotors so yours sounds excessive, why i don't know but i would keep a close eye on the rotors, what sort of mileage have you done and any track use ?



XP8 offers a similar feel to the Xp10 just not as strong when really pushing on and during track use, for fastroad XP8 is generally a better choice and also a little easier on rotors as well so i think maybe a good option for you.



Z-Rated PFC is a average fast road pad with decent enough road manners (lower dust/noise et) and will stop car ok but wont give the nice sharp feel you get with XP pads as they are competition pads so not fair to compare PF Z with them.



HTH

Thanks! Maybe my eye and finger is mistaking me, so it might be less than 1mm but running down my finger from edge of disk towards the center I feel the groove.

No, no trackdays.

I'm looking also into the PF 01 compound which seems like a better alternative.

Whats your/others opinion on the PF 01 vs XP8? Noise, feel etc?

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