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Old 16-01-2020, 03:53   #91
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The frame hasn't been weakened by corrosion that is my point from the beginning, clean metal right through the break,

Salt is only spread on the uk roads a few days a year

Steel obviously corrodes a lot quicker than aluminium there shouldn't be much left of underneath the car if this is the case?
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Old 16-01-2020, 05:43   #93
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when i restored my 4 underneath 5 years ago same thing happend but not as severe as yours .
my mate who was trying to remove the same sub frame and it too snapped
but far as remember we got skilled welder in the art of aluminium to repair it
but like i say it wasn't as bad a break as yours.
it would appear to be a weak point i doubt very much that mitsubishi would of had the fore thourght to ever invisage this item being removed from the car in its lifetime to be honest .
all evo iv's are at least 23 years old now so it is to be expected that bolts will seize up over that time ,its unfortunately the joy of restoring these soon to be vintage motors.
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Old 16-01-2020, 06:07   #94
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So how is the underside job going? Have you stopped the garage now until this is sorted?
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Old 16-01-2020, 09:26   #95
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If you spent as much time and dedication fixing the problem rather than arguing that the problem should have happened, you would probably be a lot further along!

It is almost certainly not going to be the only issue like this you will encounter on the way, this is why you see so many unfinished projects for sale, not just Evo's!

If I was as skilled as you in undoing corroded bolts, i would have undone all the bolts neccessary, cleaned them up then done them back up to transport to the garage, would have saved you labour time and parts!
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If I was as skilled as you in undoing corroded bolts, i would have undone all the bolts neccessary, cleaned them up then done them back up to transport to the garage, would have saved you labour time and parts!
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Steel obviously corrodes a lot quicker than aluminium there shouldn't be much left of underneath the car if this is the case?
There probably isn't
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Jeez OP, you need to step away from the keyboard and chill out.

Working in the trade many years, I can assure you the mechanic would not have wanted to purposely damage the subframe.

Regardless of your metal structure qualifications, a piece of thin aluminium broke when it would have been the last thing he wanted. Remember, they’re in it for money (which is about being over productive with book/quotes time) and it’s the kind of crap like this thread that got me out the trade.

Last thing they want is a rusty old car blocking the workshop with an angry owner ranting in the reception waving a Aldi ‘middle isle special’ Multitool.
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Maybe this is the trick you've been missing all these years, struggling when the answer was in Aldi

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Remember, they’re in it for money (which is about being over productive with book/quotes time) and it’s the kind of crap like this thread that got me out the trade.
I've been in the trade for many years, also currently running my own workshop for nearly 6 years now.

It is situations like this that are happening more and more often, that makes me want to jack it all and work for aldi. Never worth the stress and hassle of the customers demands and the 'since you' syndrome.

breakages happen fact.
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Steel obviously corrodes a lot quicker than aluminium there shouldn't be much left of underneath the car if this is the case?
Are you broken?

You're comparing bare aluminium that has been both anecdotally and empirically shown to corrode through both galvanic corrosion and general exposure to moisture and salt, to painted and/or undersealed steel...those two things are not analogous.

Why would you expect treated steel to corrode faster than untreated aluminium?
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To the OP

Was your car fitted with a "sacrificial anode" from new?

VIN may confirm.

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I would have removed the bolt without damaging the subframe with the right tool,

I'd quote the job of said unit based on its condition and the possibility of any damages occurring, that's the professional thing to do.

I don't have progress pics as of yet as not much has been done yet, they have started stripping it this week, I did say I was in no rush to get it back though, gutted to hear that the 4 subframe is a one off size, been told they all fit by 3 people one person says no so far,
I can assure you that if its your typical rear subframe bolt.... no you wouldn't. You are lucky its only the sub frame that has been damaged and not more.
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i love that close up ,where all the nice clean edge gone that WAS the bolt hole ,its gone ,you can see the other side where the alloys gone as well
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