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Recomended af meter/wbo

claudiumxg
17-03-2011, 10:30
A input from the experienced mappers/shops here will be greatly apreciated.
A hint on what peope use (motec plm, autronic,ecm, afm1000, neko af700 ... anything else?)on dyno for metering/datalogging af ratio, and how they do compare to the amateur stuff like lc1, aem uego, zeitronix.... from your experience?

grayw
17-03-2011, 12:51
How deep are your pockets, and what application do you want to use it for? Many use the Bosch sensor, but there are a few using the NTK ones.

claudiumxg
17-03-2011, 14:12
How deep are your pockets, and what application do you want to use it for? Many use the Bosch sensor, but there are a few using the NTK ones.

i am willing to spent wisely some money given a advice from someone with experience instead of melting an engine, as i've seen to much inconsistency with the "cheaper" ones as far as 2 points in afr against a M*tec PLM (also verified by egt) instead of the 11,5 it was almost at 13.5 /on a turbo it is not vey nice+ sample speed does not keep with the ecu sweep throug the maps, so you can't realy trace the real values , and is to much work involved to guess the right cels

grayw
17-03-2011, 14:40
I'd guess it had a fault if the difference was 0.13 lambda, typically the difference is within 0.04 lambda. There are a lot of people using the zeitronix and AEM kit, but again it uses the standard Bosch sensor.

claudiumxg
17-03-2011, 15:09
it was a*m uego, brand new from the box..
what do you use?

grayw
17-03-2011, 15:22
I've used Innovate and zeitronix, and gone through lots of sensors Bosch, Denso and NTK. The reading all the kits used have been very close when compared to readings taken at different rolling roads.
If you look at the specifications, most give an accuracy or 0.03 lambda around 0.5 afr.

GUM EVO
17-03-2011, 15:48
http://www.rhdjapan.com/neko-corporation-af-700-air-fuel-ratio-meter-system-31063?gdftrk=gdfV22405_a_7c1445_a_7c6109_a_7c31063

Oracle
17-03-2011, 15:56
the biggest diference on afr depends where you mount the sensor.

claudiumxg
17-03-2011, 20:08
http://www.rhdjapan.com/neko-corporation-af-700-air-fuel-ratio-meter-system-31063?gdftrk=gdfV22405_a_7c1445_a_7c6109_a_7c31063

i already have this in mind. does it have serial port also?
hgk afx has good reviews but no serial port, and the analog signel is way slower than digital(0-255 +afr formula)

grayw
17-03-2011, 23:45
the biggest diference on afr depends where you mount the sensor.

:smthumbup

claudiumxg
18-03-2011, 08:38
the biggest diference on afr depends where you mount the sensor.

Absoloutely true. I usually put the bung at the end of downpipe before the flange , so it is not so subjected to heat
Any ideas about new mtx-l , as the serial output is very appealing?

Grant620
18-03-2011, 15:48
#The MTX is very fast reacting and is bang on compared to my PLX and LC1.

Dom_J
15-09-2011, 12:24
Does anyone have any recommended ground points?

I ordered the PLX SM-AFR/DM5 for my Evo 4.

Optimal grounding points for an Evo 4 would be an even better answer. I'm also planning on using it as my narrowband sensor. Thanks for any input on the matter.

Dragracer187
15-09-2011, 21:54
Autronic model B(NTK), or NGK AFX with the upgraded NTK sensor.

claudiumxg
22-09-2011, 10:16
ended up with mtx-l from innovate, which is super accurate , no more grounding problems, very fast on analog output for standalone and ecu logging.
i'll also get a M*tec LTC for can comuniacating ecu's