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Iain
08-02-2001, 16:41
would really like to know what the correct performance stats are for an EVO6. Have read articles in autocar that quote 0-100 in 11.2s but EVO quote 13.5s and Top Gear tested the P1 against it and found the P1 slightly quicker to 100 (P1 quoted at 12.5s). The PTW ratio for the EVO is 202 bhp/tonne so would my slightly modded Scooby (at approx 240 bhp) with 204 bhp/tonne have similar performance or would an EVO easily have the legs on it? I have seen a few video clips of track days and the EVO certainly seems to have the better of the Scoobs or is it just that it is a better track car (stiffer, AYC, Brembos etc..)?
Cheers

Old Boy
08-02-2001, 20:51
Loose the Scooby!

Get a Life!, GET AN EVO!!!!!!!!!![img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/biggrin1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e13-->[img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/biggrin1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e13-->[img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/biggrin1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e13-->[img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/biggrin1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e13-->[img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/biggrin1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e13-->

hunty
08-02-2001, 21:09
Iain

If the Evo mag you are quoting is the current issue, it was a private individuals car (Blowdog).

He was present and I would presume they didn't thrash its arse in front of him.

Autocars test was from 99? The car was a Ralliart demo and from memory certainly had a HKS exhaust on, it may even of had the stage 1 conversion?

On track days, I find mine has the legs on most Imprezas appart from extremly well driven ones. This is probably down to the brakes which are 100% better then standard Subaru items.

I love my Evo, many Evo drivers are ex Impreza and many current Impreza owners are thinking of switching over.

Do it, you will have no regrets.[img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/biggrin1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e13-->

Heave Ho Six
08-02-2001, 21:58
Correct performance figures?
Can you ever have correct performance figures?
There is so much variability when testing cars that there will always be different figures quoted.
Temperature, weather, ground condition, wind speed, humidity all have a bearing on the final out come of performance figures. At the end of the day they are only guidelines but it helps if there is a level playing field. Some magazines tested unmodified Evo's others modified (Hunty saying the press car, S6 GSR having a HKS exhaust is correct) and this doesn't help.
Personally I don't believe the official Ralliart figures of 0-62mph in 4.4 secs and 0-100mph in 11.2 secs, I think it might be a case of rose tinted glasses?
All I can say is the Evo 6 will do sub 5.0 second 0-60mph and probably sub 12.5 second 0-100mph runs.
The low gearing of the Evo will mean it has the legs on UK Imprezas.

....and I have proof, just ask the Impreza owner I out dragged at the lights this morning (not sure what model but it had a high rear wing so not a standard Turbo unless modified) [img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/biggrin1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e13-->

Blowdog
09-02-2001, 00:07
For what its worth...
The test figures used in this months Evo werent from my car http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/Happy.gif <!--e1-->
Because I demanded mechanical sympathy, the figures were taken from a previous test. The reason, also, why the Mak didnt perform so well on slalom is because we were worried we would wrap a few cones around the car. Hence, we took it easy.

One thing I will say though, there really is veer little between scoobs and evo's, even UK scoobs.

Enjoy what ya got.

Cem

Iain
09-02-2001, 05:24
Thanks for the constructive comments [img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/happy1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e1--> A few months ago an Evo6 followed me and we were both at the back of a line of traffic. The evo was obviously keen to get passed. When the road cleared I pulled out first and went for it. To my surprise, he followed but was dropping back slightly. When we got passed all the cars he was happy to sit behind me for the next 3 or 4 miles. I don't normally race on the road but don't see any harm in a bit of quick overtaking. Evos certainly look menacing in your rear view mirror - it was driven extremely well and wasn't harrassing. I know there are lots of circumstances that effect a cars performance but there are certainly 'acknowkledged' stats for the Scooby - e.g. they produce closer to 235 bhp vs the quoted 215. Nice to know what your closest 'rival' can do [img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/happy1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e1--> The biggest flaws with the Scoob are brakes that fade too quickly and a bit too much understeer - but everything is comparative.

Blue6
09-02-2001, 09:02
This is a subject close to my heart. I've recently joined the clan with an EVO VI after running a Uk Impreza for a year. My car was purchased new and driven for 27,000 hard miles over the course of a year. I had PPP, Prodrive suspension, AP Brakes and 17 Wheels. On my EVO I've added a HKS exaust, eibachs and Blitz filter. I still do'nt think the EVO is appreciably faster. Certainly with the gearing it feels more manic but as to whether it's faster I'm not convinced. I'd be happy to offer my car up for a direct comparison with some Scoob's (off the queens highway) to decide on this. Oh I think you'll find the Autocar test car was running a standard ECU.

Bloodaxe
09-02-2001, 13:08
Iain,

If it was a Black Evo 6 on the way back from Guildford to the MI somewhere, then it was me...

Ian

SHORTY
09-02-2001, 13:10
No one seem to have taken their car down a drag strip to get times.
Now if you want to base times around a E3/4/5 then you will be looking at 1/4 mile in 13-13.5 secs with terminal speed at around 102-104 mph.0-100 1/4sec less.These figure are proven.
The E6 shouldn't be far away from these times ,unless very heavily modded.Then may be 1/4 to 1/2 sec faster.
Its about time some one with an E6 put it to the 1/4 mile test .Perhaps santa pod day out?

cheers

Paul s

Iain
09-02-2001, 13:23
Blood axe, the evo I 'met' was near Chelmsford, heading North. Would loved to have pulled over for a chat as I hadn't seen an evo in the flesh at the time. Appreciate the comments, especially the lack of bull****! [img]http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/happy1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e1-->

SILVER FUN
09-02-2001, 15:07
Shorty is right,you have to get your car on a drag strip to see proper performace figures.My V best is 13.4 at 104mph and amp; thats when you get everything spot on ie. launch and amp; gear change.In my opinion you need some serious money spending to get into the 12s.As Shorty knows because we both raced at York dragway last year, the easiest way is to get nitrous on your car as that bloody Capri and amp; Nissan GTIR had - just press the button and amp; bye bye.
Paul.

Blow Dog
09-02-2001, 17:03
In my experience, Scoobies are faaar easier to launch than Evo's. Everytime I try on mine I burn the clutch a little http://www.ltregister.f9.co.uk/graphics/Sad.gif <!--e2-->

Cem

Richard
10-02-2001, 16:28
Put my Evo 6 Extreme down the strip at Santa Pod last year. Best time 12.726 and amp; 106.58 MPH.

Richard

i want one
10-02-2001, 16:44
Just wondering what your 0-60 time was in the extreme????

Richard
10-02-2001, 17:14
Best measured time is 4.33 secs.

Richard

shorty
10-02-2001, 22:51
Good to see that you posted your 1/4 mile speed,and a good time it is .The Extreme is running what? 330bhp|PLS| with slightly different gearing to the standard E6.
Santa pod is a good strip for grip etc.did you experience any four wheel spin.?
York was greasy.
As Silvery fun in his very nice E5 achieving a 13,4 s termeinal 104mph
my best 103.69 @13.587s in my E4
Which suggests that I need more horses.or perhaps a motec ecu with a 34 mm resrictor.with a bottom end rebuild .How much is an Extreme?.
Never raced an Evo on the road..

cheers
paul s
never been beaten yet?

Richard
11-02-2001, 08:23
The Extreme is quoted at 340 BHP. A good launch will result in a slight yelp from all four wheels. The surface at Santa Pod is very grippy and there is a very narrow line between bogging down and a slipping clutch, even with a Helix paddle clutch.

Richard
11-02-2001, 08:52
Extreme has the same gearing as the GSR and had a list price of 42,000 when I bought mine a year ago.