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AnEvoGuy
09-05-2002, 07:51
We've all seen the pictures from the recent castle coombe track day, but where's all the info?????
Was the norris designs evo5 quick, did it blow it's turbo or clutch [img]http://www.lancerregister.com/graphics/Wilk.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| middle >
Were RC developments there with a bigger turbo?
Come on blade, how was the car running after the latest tweeks, did that bloody big wing make any difference?
etc......

There's no need to be shy guys, lets hear all the gossip :)

Blade
09-05-2002, 08:06
Ha ha! The Norris guy was quick, but looked nothing like 580bhp quick. I never managed to get on track with him, apart from one time when I was quite far away - but was gaining on him. It then poured down, we went in - so who knows. It is a power track for sure. RC didn't bring their car, and it hasn't got the bigger turbo on it yet as people keep buying stuff they order for their car (like me!)

My car wasn't running right - we were getting compressor surge/stall problems - which we have now tracked down to the boost solenoid plumbing and dump valve. This meant juddering on corners, so we lost alot of corner speed - the huge bung I had to shove up the exhaust knocked a good 50bhp off, and the car needs more mapping (going on dyno soon) once we settle with a proper quiet exhaust - no point remapping it before then. So it probably had no more than 370 bhp on the day - that bung was REALLY restrictive and the car sounded wierd....

At the end of the day it is down to driver. I struggled keeping T27 (Kev) and DaveD6 off me as they are both maniacs, but if I concentrated hard enough the extra poke could keep them away. Certainly when Russ was driving that wasn't a problem, but you need tons of power to make a big difference on a track like combe. The Warrender car was quick, and we seemed to keep pace with each other. Of course timing is forbidden, but Kev and Dave were around 2 secs a lap quicker than me, and about 1 or 2 secs a lap slower than Russ in my car. The trick with Kev and Dave is they never brake as far as I can see. Why Dave wasted money on a set of APs I will never know! Still, give me time, I'll catch them - one day!

AnEvoGuy
09-05-2002, 09:55
What about that rear wing Blade, It looks pretty serious is it just for show or does it actually work? [img]http://www.lancerregister.com/graphics/Wilk.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| middle >
Did you get any video footage?, I haven't been taking up much company bandwidth recently!

Any one else at CC, or was Blade the only one with an evo there :)

Blade
09-05-2002, 13:59
Wing SEEMS better, not really had a chance to play - too concerned with the other issues. I do have vids, will post sometime this weekend - as missus is away, I have time on my hands :(

daved6
09-05-2002, 18:26
Hello Boy's

Agree with Tony , the Norris car was quick but nowhere near the fiqures talked about , my car only runs about 340 bhp and the Norris car was only pulling approximately 3 car lengths on me on the straight , so either high peak bhp with a poor torque curve or there's some bullsh*te going on some where ! I past it a number of times during the day and amp; left it for dead on each accasion. :D

The Warrander car had more or less the same straight line speed as my car as did Kev's now his Autronics ECU is set up with the added bonus of some flames ! and amp; a better power delivery I'm told :)

Overall a great day , just need to get out again on track soon........any one booked in anywhere?....................... Mr Blade ?

Tony I couldn't use the six pots much as they hadn't been bedded in properly , just crusing m8 [img]http://www.lancerregister.com/graphics/tonguewink1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e5-->

Blade
09-05-2002, 19:29
Dave, you make me sick... I wish I had your driving skills :D One day mate - just watch out!

Oulton Park, bookatrack 28th May - really empty at the mo, which means it is 95% likely to go open pit - infact, there is a day with easytrack there on the 29th too! Fancy a double header???

:D

Blade
09-05-2002, 19:31
BTW - Dave - the one time I did overtake you, were you warming up the tyres or something?? You promptly reappeared up my arse a little while later and scared me into letting you past :D

Tried keeping up with you, but it is just too hard work!

Blade
09-05-2002, 19:48
Dave - if Norris pulled 3 car lengths on you on the straight, then that probably equates to about 80bhp, possbily 100bhp (we need the very scientific Droid here to calculate this.... :D)

Far cry from 586bhp. My guess would be the car runs 500bhp, with the exhaust bung up it's jacksy probably around 430-440.

Would love to see it in the hands of someone who can really drive fast to see how quick it really is.

JUST CUSTARD PLC
09-05-2002, 20:17
dave,
if you have ap,s
you wont need more power !
just get barny to set it up !
cheers
stuart

daved6
09-05-2002, 20:28
Tony.......it was halfway around my out lap you past me , I must say you were going quicker than at Cadwell plus the car looked more planted and amp; stable to me , how did it feel ?

I think your power estimates for the Norris car are about right , mind you I made it all up in the braking zone for quarry with time to spare for the odd scooby snack as well on the way .........He....He .......:D

I would really like to drive the Norris car , maybe it is a stormer!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hard to say the way it was driven at Combe.

I will try and make Oulton Park on the 28 May as well , would be nice to have time for a run out in each others cars , don't no Oulton Park so you can show me the lines :D

Hope to see you on the 28th May

Dave

daved6
09-05-2002, 20:42
Stuart.....I type so slow that your post wasn't up when I replied to Tony's...[img]http://www.lancerregister.com/graphics/laugh1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e8-->

I will speak to Barny regarding some fine setting up |PLS| I want to disconnect the abs for trackday use as it was cutting in at over 100mph in the dry on slicks with the AP's at Combe .

I really need to sort out my wining rear diff , I would like to replace the AYC diff with the Cusco mechanical ltd slip unit , any comments or ideas ?

Glad to see you had some Major success last weekend with the bike racing , sounds like the works boys will be coming to you soon ! :)

JUST CUSTARD PLC
09-05-2002, 20:56
changing the oil on the diff can work wonders,and i think,but ask him,that he can adjust the diff.
he has some good geometry settings......do you want to borrow my Ledas ?.....or buy them ?
i doubt i will have time to try them.

it would be worth getting the car serviced by him beforehand....

daved6
09-05-2002, 21:17
Stuart

What are the Leda units you have , oil or gas shocks , are they remotes / adjustables ? plus what spring rates are they set up with and is the ride height adjustable ?

Sorry for all the questions but finally how much do you want for them , I wouldn't mind fitting them to play with the set up for a comparison against my std shocks with HKS super sport springs but wouldn't want to muck you about if I decided I didn't like them ??

Cheers
Dave

Blade
10-05-2002, 01:01
Dave - bookatrack said it will almost definitely be open pit - if not I am paying more to run all day :D

It is a great track, you will love it. We can play with the 400bhp 355 challenge car that is going - give it a good spanking!

Thanks for the kind words - I was really not too well at Cadwell! That was only my second time at Combe, and I was just a beginner the first time - so I was quite pleased. Oulton I feel quite well acquainted with, and fingers crossed I should have all my issues sorted by then :D

If you give me your details, and promise not to crash it, I will get you covered on my car so you can actually try it (am I mad???)

Are you going up the night before, if so I know a good hotel about 20 mins away that is really nice.

Cheers

Tony

Blade
10-05-2002, 01:01
Perhaps we can entice Kev to come too? Are you going to do the double header, or just the 28th?

JUST CUSTARD PLC
10-05-2002, 07:45
dave
height adjustable,gas,dunno what springs....they are with Barny.....i will find out
you are welcome to try them.....i gave £400 for them

daved6
10-05-2002, 17:25
Stuart........I would like to try them thanks , can you mail me Barny's phone number or email address .

Tony ........I look forward to the 28th m8 , thanks for your generous offer!!!!!!!

Cheers
Dave :)

Droid
10-05-2002, 19:44
<i>Did you get any video footage?, I haven't been taking up much company bandwidth recently!</i>

Not sure if Blade has but I managed a little.

Here's one of me being held up by a Lotus Esprit and Evo 7 (see if you can tell the point where I
got frustrated at the Esprit not moving over :D):

<!--http--><a href|EQU| http://www.bm3w.co.uk/goodies/video/tracks/Castle_Combe_01.mpg target|EQU| _blank >Castle Combe 01 (21Mb)</a><!--url-->

Here's a short one of Blade's colleague Martin in his P1 being nearly pushed off the track
by a blind Escort driver:

<!--http--><a href|EQU| http://www.bm3w.co.uk/goodies/video/tracks/Castle_Combe_02.mpg target|EQU| _blank >Castle Combe 02 (4Mb)</a><!--url-->

Enjoy my first experiment with a firewire card :D

Ian.

Jerry of NO Evo fame
11-05-2002, 09:20
Droid

Very, very nice. :D

Jerry

Jspeed
11-05-2002, 12:30
I must add too that the Norris Evo was on standard road tyres and standard brake calipers. Don't think he was getting enough traction to the ground all day. But still on the straight I agree that it didn't look anywhere near 586bhp! I have seen the JUN 580bhp Super Lemon Evo in action in Singapore against other modified Evos and the difference is HUGE. Should be giving the other cars like 10 car lengths on the straight with that kind of power.

Went for a ride in T27's car and he really impressed me with his driving! And his tyres had so much grip (Dunlop Formula-R I think), I couldn't believe the speed he was going round corners. Maybe it was 10mph faster than my car could ever do with its Michelin Pilot Sports. For a car with standard internals,turbo,cams, brakes and suspension ... he was getting almost everything out of it. Well done! :)

Norris Designs
11-05-2002, 13:48
Hi all!

This is my first post on the board but thought it might be worth saying a bit about Castle Combe (CC). Our Evo only ran on low boost all day at CC which is 1.5 Bar with high set at 2 Bar, at this boost the car makes 460Hp and at 2 Bar we see 586Hp. The extra 0.1 Bar boost in the mid range gave us 490LbFt as opposed to 485 as before.

I had a really good day and worked the brakes a little hard (discs warped after 1st outing). I have some videos of the day covering the ND car and will post as soon as they are uploaded (If interested).

Simon

Blade
11-05-2002, 14:50
Simon - Why were you running low boost? The car looked more like 430-440. Was the bung up the exhaust a problem? Was for me.......

About time you got some proper brakes :D
When is it going on track next - and where? There is a day at Oulton on 28th May with bookatrack......

Jspeed - amazing what kev does with that car. I hate him :D

Norris Designs
11-05-2002, 15:46
Blade - I always run low boost on both cars at track days I always have done. The Evo is quite unstable at the back at the moment so low boost round Combe is far safer, oversteer is a big problem when cornering. The car was running a little slower in the afternoon as I had a hose leak off the turbo which I didn't know about until the next day.

The silencer made no noticable difference to power it was just quieter. I have changed the discs already but we will see how effective they are at the next track day.

I will be going to all Combe days and very few others just because I am so lazy about travelling. I have been round Oulton, Silverstone and amp; Cadwell before which we great but too far away!

Watch the next CCC action day at Combe because Martin Hadland will be there too and we have arranged to go out on the same session to compare cars.

Jspeed
11-05-2002, 16:22
Get some slicks and run 2.0bar dude ... Then you'll be seriously kicking arse! :D

Blade
11-05-2002, 16:52
Mmm - it shouldn't be unstable at the rear - did notice some sliding!

Run more wing to get more downforce. Also check your rear cusco diff. Get grippier tyres, and check your rear tyre pressures too. What springs you got at the back? Could be too stiff, hence lack of grip. Do you have a rear strut brace? That will help.

When is the CCC day? I think it would be interesting to compare your care with mine, don't you? They are completely different approaches...

Why do you turn the boost down on a track day? Surely the best measure of reliability is thrashing the arse off a car on a track day and it hanging together...that's what I do :D

Combe is a nice track, forgot how good it was. Interesting what you say about the silencer - i am having a chuffing big one bit on - am fed up of hitting noise problems at tracks!

What dates are you combe days that you have planned?

Norris Designs
11-05-2002, 18:04
We have a hard rear diff and soft front which is supposed to promote oversteer and reduce understeer. It certainley works but the Avon ZZ1's I was running were just not up to the job.

I am running std suspension with Eibach springs which are due to be changed to Proflex in the next few weeks. Strut bars are fitted front and amp; rear.

I am not sure of the exact dates at Combe as the guide is at the office, I will let you know. I would be very interested to compare cars and see what the difference is.

The demo cars are normally the fastest things on the trackdays even on low boost so why chance high boost and lose 50K into the armco! I use high boost on the road 90% of the time and of course when doing sprint times.

T27...
11-05-2002, 22:58
Jspeed- thanks for those kind words :) the performance of my car really is down to Mark Sheads brilliant mapping, and still with a good safety margin. It was good to get out and have a blast with some differently modded Evo's, as it always gives a good comparison between ideas.

Blade- please don't hate me :D ;) must admit I can't wait for the stage 2 conversion, should be loads of fun.

Look forward to my next outing at Combe ( 13th July ) Cosworth RSOC track day.


Kevin

daved6
12-05-2002, 00:14
Kev..............I do believe I'm booked into this cossie bashing day :D :D :)

Jspeed
12-05-2002, 03:34
I remember reading somewhere that the Norris Evo has a different gearing from the standard Evo, a longer one. Probably not geared for the circuit ... more for top speed, what do you think?

Blade
12-05-2002, 09:37
That's right - it has a longer final drive - but with the power it is supposed to have that wouldn't make a difference (it is supposed to 100 in around 8 seconds and 60 in 3.8 or something like that from memory).

Norris Designs
12-05-2002, 12:09
We do have a longer final drive but it isn't a disadvantage at circuits, just less gearchanges! I will be at Combe for the RSOC day as well so I will see Daved6 and amp; T27 there. I will have some decent tyres and suspension by then so things should be interesting! (Next CCC action day 15th June 2002)

2 videos of the ND evo can be found here;

www.bhp-cars.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk (Hopefully it works!)

Blade
12-05-2002, 12:15
mmm windows media player refuses to play either of them

when is the RSOC day? Is it open pit?

Blade
12-05-2002, 12:16
aah, just seen the date above. 13th July

not sure if i will be here for that...
is it open pit, how much and where do we book?

Norris Designs
12-05-2002, 14:09
I hate computers, the files work on my PC but I could be sure that no one else would be able to see them! Doh! I have the latest
downloaded version of Windows Media Player, don't know if that makes any difference??????????

I will see if I can sort it out tomorrow. Cars are much more my thing!?

daved6
12-05-2002, 19:22
Blade......I think i've still got an entry form in the office , email my office with your fax number and i'll fax it over Monday

Norris Designs
13-05-2002, 08:25
Blade - If you change the endings of the downloaded files to .mpg instead of .mpeg they should work.

JVC_EVO
16-05-2002, 21:31
Hi all I would just like to say that this is my first message on this forum. I thought that I would post a message because I don't agree with some of the points that some people are putting on this thred.
Simon from N-D is a very good mate of mine and I am probably a bit biased but I think that the n-d evo was the fastest thing at Combe apart from the orange westfield. It would be fare to say that the car cost big money to build but it has the figures to prove the power and not just talk? I've been out in the car on the open road and can tell you all that it's the fastest thing that I've ever been in. In fact I s**t myself and amp; was shaking with the adrenaline rush when I got out !!!!.
There was no other car that I saw on the day 4 wheel drifting at 75-80mph in the dry let alone another evo ?
Please don't take this the wrong way because there was plenty of quick cars with some very good drivers and I think a grate day was had by all.
See you all at the next Castle Combe action day.

T27...
16-05-2002, 21:58
JVC_EVO

Not looking for an argument here, but I followed the ND car for five laps and he could not pull 2 car lengths out of me down the main straight. That in my book does not add up to the claimed BHP. Or maybe the power is not spread over a wide power band, hence not driver friendly. As for lap times we can't say can we ;) but had somebody done this they would tell you the ND car was not the quickest. Power doesn't make a quick lap time.

Just my 2pence worth

Rgds Kevin

JVC_EVO
17-05-2002, 16:44
Hi T27
As i said please don't take this the wrong way.
Was your evo the silver one with exhaust flames ? If so what bhp is your car.
I think you maybe right on the lap times but as N-D says the discs warped after the 1st outing so the rest of the day did not involve late braking into corners hence slower lap times and the 4 wheel drifting onto the straight's was no help either. You must also remember that he was only running on low boost ( 460hp ) and amp; standard suspension. On high boost (586hp ) a differance of 126hp you may see a similer kind of differance between a standard evo with 280hp and amp; one with 400hp a differance of 120hp! :)
There are 2 videos here if you wish to see them but you need to rename the file ending from .mpeg to .mpg after you have downloaded them or windows media player will not play them.
<a href|EQU| http://www.bhp-cars.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk target|EQU| _blank ><!--auto-->http://www.bhp-cars.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk</a><!--auto-->
Thanks for your post and look forward to seeing you at the next Castle Combe track day.
Rgds: Ady

Blade
17-05-2002, 17:11
JVC_EVO - why do you feel the need to defend Norris? Seems you were the only person there with your opinion (which you admit is a biased one) - we all were there, and saw the cars run.

I have spent a fortune on my car too, and had problems too - T27 EVO overtook me... you don't see me bitching about it or people jumping up to defend me... **** happens, just accept that.

The reasons for slow performance (warped brakes etc.) may be true, but at the end of the day what makes a quick car is the whole package - brakes, suspension AND power.

1/4 miles aren't everything. Kev's car showed clearly that ample power well setup with a good driver can beat most things.

Dave's Radical costs the same as Norris spent on his car and would kill the Norris car on any track anywhere.

it is all relative. We were expecting amazing things, and didn't see them. Hopefully it will all come good for Simon another time. I certainly understand having problems, as I have had them all the time!

If Simon needs or wants to show people how quick the car is against other EVOs he should be come to some other tracks and show the car's capabilities (or hire a good driver to show the car off). At the moment, I don't think anyone is convinced - sorry. No disrespect to Simon, I have spoken to him several times in the past - seems a nice guy.

Norris Designs
17-05-2002, 17:37
T27 - While I must agree that you are a good driver I seem to remember me pulling over two lengths on you down the straight but getting in your way around the corners and when under braking. Maybe we both have a selective memory..... who knows? Roll on RSOC day and we can try again.

Blade - My car is not set up for the track much more for the road, sprints and the occasional track day. If I really wanted to set the car up to perform on the track then I would lose the comfort and drivability I require on the road. That said I do intend to make a few improvements to reduce my overall lap times.

As an overall package I am very happy with our Evo demo car we are pioneering where others have not yet started, this of course means that we encounter the teething problems and experience the is it true comments. Being realistic I expect all of the thngs that have been said so far, long term is what really matters and am happy to see everyones comments good or bad.

Cheers Guys

Simon

daved6
17-05-2002, 21:06
Simon....................We all love Evo's here m8 :) , no ones bitching for the sake of it , we have all tried different things some work and amp; some don't , but as Blade say's we all learn by eack other's experiences which are shared on this board.

The issue being made here was purely that the car didn't seem as fast as we all expected it to be , no problem with you posting some of the reasons why and amp; I look forward to seeing at Combe again .

I don't think you realise how standard both of our cars are ( T27 and amp; T300 ) the fact that we were still much quicker per lap is what caused most of the comments.

It would be good to have a go in your car and amp; experience the performance first hand :D

Norris Designs
17-05-2002, 22:18
Daved 6 - I must love my Evo too as the missus doesn't get 35K chucked at her, god forbid?! I can take the rough with the smooth, good for motivation anyway!

.....Right before the next track day I need Tyres, Suspension, High Boost, fix rear Diff (Again), new Clutch (Oooh no fixed that now...phew!) remove brain whilst on track, ignore possible financial loss of hitting armco... That should do it, OK bring on the std (ish) silver evos with maniacs behind the steering wheels!!! [img]http://www.lancerregister.com/graphics/tongue1.gif border|EQU| 0 align|EQU| absmiddle ><!--e4-->

My lap times at Combe were 1:23 which is 1 sec slower than the 200SX which is on coilovers. I would be happy to take you out in our Evo and you can see what you think.

Blade
18-05-2002, 00:05
I counted manually with my mind (no stopwatches :D) Dave and Kev doing 1m18 laptimes. My car did a 1m20 and also had lots of problems, with me driving (average). Russ Clarke driving mine was quicker than Kev, so think maybe 1m17 is his time.

You got some way to go Simon. Combe is a power circuit too... take the car somewhere tougher like Oulton park.

You can join me |PLS| Dave at Oulton on 28th May with Bookatrack if you like. :D

Seriously - I would like to drive your car too to see what the 25g and a stroker is like... might force me to spend some cash :D

Norris Designs
18-05-2002, 09:46
Blade - If you were all doing the times you say then that is very impressive as the lap record for a saloon car race car is only 1:18 and that is full race. I think the last Combe outing was good fun and highlighted some improvemnts that need to be made on most cars and drivers for the next session. I will try to make it to Oulton and join in the fun, got to fix the rear diff first though. :(

You are welcome to have a drive of the car and see what you think about the 25G and stroker, I see more of your money being spent already!!! :)

Blade
18-05-2002, 10:19
Cool - hope 2 see u there.

Regarding the times - they were recorded by several people (again counting, as stopwatches aren't allowed :D)

My mate in his EVO6 with 330bhp, APs and Eibachs was doing 1m20 - which shows how much I need to practice as I should have been quicker than him, Kev and Dave! Need to grow larger balls - which will be the next addition to the car :-P

I hope the stroker and 25g are ****, I really do :D I wouldn't go for the stroker now - but the 25g is tempting... especially as it is a bolt on. I have heard of something called the 22g, which sounds like a hybrid between the two. Any idea? That might suit me better. Supposed to be good for 500bhp....

Norris Designs
18-05-2002, 10:40
Blade - I only timed a few cars with my stopwatch and the reults are as follows;

Warrender 1:25 Best
R33 Skyline 1:23 Best
Dragon Silvia 1:29 Best
Blade Evo 8:55 Best

Ha ha only kidding I didn't time you, but I think that the 8:55 lap time could be reduced by up to 8 mins by fitting a stroker and 25G, go on you know you want too! :) Seriously though best thing is to drive my car and try before you buy.

I haven't heard of a 22G from Greddy?! The 25G is a good wheel and would work really well on your car with the 8Cm2 exhaust housing. The only problem you might find is that the car doesn't have long enough gearing to make use of the extra power. We had a similar effect on a low geared Pulsar, it didn't really go until you were in 5th and had some load on the engine.

Blade
18-05-2002, 11:46
Mmm - i remeber the skyline being slower and the warrender car quicker... depends on time of day..

of course when you said stopwatch, you meant you counted 1, 2 ,3 as timing is strictly forbidden :D

My gearing is short.... surprised by what you say at not being able to use the extra power.. RC just fitted a 25g to a 7 RS with short gearing and that is meant to fly (by other people's accounts).

Can the 25g wheel be put on my turbo or is it a total turbo swap out?
What does your car rev to?

The extra power of the 25g SHOULD allow alot more torque....

I wish I knew what power my car has - but till I map it properly i can't tell. It is only at 1.4 bar peak at 7000rpm at the moment which is a bit low! Could go 1.7bar there I think. midrange does hit 2 bar though... hence why the torque feels good.

The idea of fiddling the existing turbo appeals... what would be IDEAL would be to stuff the 25g wheel and get essex to roller bearing it - sort of a hybrid fast spool unit - that would be mad :D

I don't want 500|PLS| bhp. It is too unreliable IMHO - too many things break and not many tracks are long enough to use the extra poke - poke is nothing without grip and brakes... 450-500 bhp is ideal, with 400-450 lb/ft - anymore and it is regular gearboxes, clutches, diffs (sound familiar? :D)

Already thinking of upgrading my brakes again.... 8 pot water cooled APs sound nice :D

Blade
18-05-2002, 11:49
BTW by unreliable I mean with continued hard use on track, not on road. I never use the car on road...

T27...
18-05-2002, 16:52
JVC_EVO

Yep the silver one with flames, as for the bhp not sure yet. Reckon it's about 340, but not sure which R/R to go to as they all seem sssoooo different.
Spec of my car is :-
Mongoose de-cat exhaust ( 93DB at Combe )
Autronic ECU
Uprated fuel pump and amp; pressure reg.
K and amp;N cone filter
Leda springs on std suspension
18 Vortex wheels with Dunlop DO1J's
Forge front strut brace
Standard brakes and amp; discs using SHP pads
And of course roof mounted ariel ( radio 4 on track days :))

Std GSR body/wieght, but with overwieght driver :(

Simon

Not having a dig at you, we all chat quite openly on here. It's a great way to learn how we can improve on bits and bobs ;) will hopefully get to talk to you at C/C if we ever get out of the cars of course :)

Blade

Sorry I can't make O/P with you and Dave :( but hope to see you soon somewhere.

Rgds Kevin

Blade
18-05-2002, 18:40
KEV - just put yer foot down mate and say you are going :D

Sure she won't mind :-P

Norris Designs
18-05-2002, 19:14
Blade - Your right the cars did vary throughout the day but the Skyline was a well setup car, doing good lap times for a 1600Kg heavyweight! Why is timing forbidden have I missed something? I cant count beyond 10 myself so I have to use a stopwatch :) I might be wrong about the short gearing but it can give torque problems with a big turbo. You will have to fit the whole T67 25G turbo rather than putting a bigger wheel as the comp cover size is just as important.

Our car revs to 8000 Rpm which makes use of the ratios really well. The 25G will give more power but not neccessarily more torque. A smaller turbo is good for torque. You want to try and run the 20G at 2 bar all the way through the range this will give you about 420Lbft and 480Hp. The 500Hp thing is a drivetrain reliability issue at the moment but give me a month or two and all the problems will be solved. Costs me a fortune but thats what development is all about! :D

Kevin - I know your not having a dig, it would be nice to talk turkeys at the next track day. All you need to do now is to get Sheady out in one if his cars...ducks might fly! He is far too cautious... hang on maybe he is the sensible one and we are the fools! :)

Rosco
19-05-2002, 10:08
Interesting to see the times everyone was doing on the day. I just looked back at my vids last time I was there and I was consistently doing 1m 20-22. OK I've got RC's stage 3 and Eibachs, but I was only running knackered SO1's and not slicks and had problems with my brakes. Can't wait till 13th July to meet you all!

Simon, any chance of blagging a ride?

Steve

Norris Designs
19-05-2002, 19:13
Rosco - Consider a ride blagged! See you there. :)

Madevelopments
19-05-2002, 20:02
Hello All
This is for simon I will be out on most of the track days coming as soon as I finish my evo in the procces of doing 400/420hp the rest of the spec of my evo is leda springs, DO 1J tyres, ap 362 front brakes, the rest is standard so I will not make any excuses and will be at full BOOST and not driven slowly.
Thanks Mark

Norris Designs
20-05-2002, 08:16
Mark - Glad to see the old girl is going to be out on track soon! If the Escort and RS500 are anything to go by then it should be a flyer. When are you hoping to get it finished?

Cheers
Simon

Madevelopments
20-05-2002, 21:33
Hello
Simon it will ready when I get the manifold made and the turbo spec finished,also when I get my cams ground, injectors size sorted, head work sorted, breather system made and finished,then engine mapped on dyno,also I have had the pistons ie the crown design and valve pockets made to my own spec,and the con rods also to my own spec,so you can see there is a lot of bits I am doing which is taking its time all of it is my own spec and will not be able to be bought from any one else,I looked around at what other people are doing and selling and decided its not what I want to do so I have gone my way as I have done on the cosworth,s and you have seen what I have done with them,
Thanks Mark

Norris Designs
21-05-2002, 12:31
Mark - Fair play you have a task and a half to get your car done then. What with the usual lead times we all encounter with engine internals manufacturers. Should be good though when done. A lot of the Japanese guys change the crown design of the 4G63 to slow flame burn etc...

Is the car running or is it off the road already?

Speak to you soon

Simon

Evo 6 Tommi Makinen
27-05-2002, 00:41
I wish I was there to see u guys round the track! would of been good digi camcorder footage! :)

I missed the ND Car going round Castle Combe last time I was there (April).

So hopefully u guys will b at Castle Combe again on the 15th June.